691 W 925 S — Records You Can Request (GRAMA)
The staging allegation can only be confirmed or killed by documents, and a striking amount of what would settle it is public record you can request today. Utah's Government Records Access and Management Act (GRAMA) gives any person the right to request records from state and local government bodies. Because the house is owned by Utah Valley University — a public institution — even the property's own use records may be reachable. This page gives you ready-to-adapt request text and tells you where to send each one.
:::note This is a citizen-action guide Filing a records request accuses no one. It asks a government body for documents it already holds. Anyone can file. Keep requests specific, keep copies, and note the response deadline (a Utah body generally must respond within 10 business days). :::
How GRAMA works in one paragraph
You send a written request to the target agency's records officer, describing the records "with reasonable specificity." The agency must respond within about 10 business days — granting, denying, or citing an extension. Denials can be appealed to the agency head and then to the State Records Committee. You may ask for a fee waiver when the request serves the public interest. Cite the statute as Utah Code § 63G-2 so the officer knows the framework.
Request 1 — Orem City Police: canvass, dispatch & incident records
Why: Fox 13 reported ATF and police went door-to-door for camera footage in the blocks by campus. Those records would show whether 691 W 925 S or its neighbors were canvassed.
Send to: Orem City Police Department records officer / Orem City Recorder.
Pursuant to the Government Records Access and Management Act (Utah Code § 63G-2), I request copies of the following records for the period August 1, 2025 through October 31, 2025:
- All CAD/dispatch call logs, incident reports, and field-contact records referencing the address 691 W 925 S, Orem or the 600–700 block of West 925 South.
- Any neighborhood-canvass logs, surveillance-footage collection logs, or evidence-intake records for the residential area bounded by 800 South, 1000 South, 600 West, and 800 West.
- Any records reflecting requests for or receipt of Ring/doorbell/home-surveillance footage from addresses in that area.
I request a fee waiver as this request serves the public interest. Please respond within the statutory 10 business days.
Request 2 — Utah Valley University: property use records
Why: UVU owns the house and said in 2019 it "could be used for hosting events or housing campus visitors." What the university actually did with it in 2025 is a public-body record.
Send to: UVU GRAMA / records officer (Office of the President or General Counsel).
Pursuant to Utah Code § 63G-2, I request records concerning the university-owned residential property at 691 W 925 S, Orem for January 1, 2025 through December 31, 2025:
- Any lease, use agreement, reservation, work order, key-issuance, or occupancy record for the property.
- Any record of the property's use for events, visitor housing, storage, staging, security operations, or by any third party.
- Any communication (email/memo) referencing use of the property in connection with the September 10, 2025 campus event.
I request a fee waiver in the public interest and a response within 10 business days.
Request 3 — City of Orem: license, permit & code files
Why: A rental license, a permit, or a code-enforcement complaint would show how the house was configured and used — see Rental & Listing History.
Send to: Orem City Community Development / Business Licensing records officer.
Pursuant to Utah Code § 63G-2, I request the complete rental-dwelling license file, business-license file, building-permit history, and code-enforcement/complaint file for 691 W 925 S, Orem, from January 1, 2015 to the present. I request a fee waiver in the public interest.
Request 4 — UVU Police Department
Why: UVU has its own sworn police department; any report or CAD entry touching the address would be theirs, not the city's.
Send to: UVU Police / UVU records officer.
Pursuant to Utah Code § 63G-2, I request any incident report, CAD/dispatch entry, security log, or camera record referencing 691 W 925 S or the residential blocks immediately north of campus for August 1, 2025 through October 31, 2025. Fee waiver requested in the public interest.
The non-GRAMA records (pull these directly)
Some of the most decisive records are already open and need no request:
- Deed chain & instrument numbers — done in open source: live serial 36:443:0006; warranty deed 46392-2019 (May 24, 2019). Full log on Deed Chain. Re-pull periodically for any post-2026 transfer.
- Assessor valuation & tax status — see Tax & Assessed Values; UVU mailing 800 W University Pkwy.
- UVU / Regents board minutes — Trustees minutes Jun 18 2019 and the 2019 purchase PMN packet are already public.
- Neighbor court exhibit context — preliminary hearing materials already name 680 W 925 S Ring video; GRAMA can ask whether 691 appears in the same canvass/evidence log.
Open questions these requests would answer
- Was 691 W 925 S canvassed in the post-shooting camera sweep?
- How did UVU actually use the house in 2025 — vacant, staff, events, or a third party?
- Is there any city license, permit, or complaint in its file?
- Do UVU Police hold any record referencing the address?
Laws (Charlie Kirk)
GRAMA is the citizen's version of what the Charlie Kirk Investigation Laws would force at scale: records that resolve leads instead of leaving them to rumor. Every request you file is a small piece of the transparent investigation those laws demand.
Interesting In This Area
- UVU ownership is what makes these requests reachable at all.
- ATF and police canvassed these blocks door to door for footage.
- No rental or listing record has surfaced on any platform checked.
- The staging claim can only be settled by documents like these.
Interesting In Other Areas
- Four proposed federal laws exist because these requests are routinely refused.
- Citizen action is mostly records requests, legislator contact and archiving.
- Sealed discovery fights show what happens without a compulsion statute.
- The sheriff's office reportedly returned no records for surrender video.
Other Pages In This Section
691 W 925 S — Rental and Listing History
"Was it rented?" is the one part of the staging claim that records can actually settle. No listing for this address surfaces on any platform checked — which is not proof, because delisted bookings do not stay indexed.
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Institutional Resignations After the Shooting
A sheriff, a university president, a state chief medical examiner and an FBI field boss all left their posts inside a year. Each departure has an ordinary explanation; the page tracks the timing anyway, because the surrender dispute runs through some of the same people.
Read thisVisa Revocations After Online Celebrations
Visa revocations, deportations and a reported 600-plus workplace actions followed celebration posts. It is the aftermath thread with the least to do with ballistics and the most to do with how institutions behave under pressure.
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The House at 691 W 925 S, Orem
An unverified citizen allegation says the attack was staged from a house a quarter-mile north of campus. The strangest documented fact is that Utah Valley University itself bought the property in 2019 — which makes its use records public.
Read thisElsewhere In The Investigation
Four federal laws modeled on the Epstein Files Act, drafted to force disclosure and mandate a real investigation. Every unanswered question in the aftermath is downstream of records nobody can compel today.
Read this
What a citizen can actually do — records requests, legislator contact, archiving — when the institutions holding the documents are the same ones being asked about.
Read thisA reported 600,000-file production arrived while the DNA chain-of-custody material the defense asked for reportedly did not. The fight over what the defense received is now the fight over what the public will ever see.
Read thisSurrender Video Not Publicly Released
The Washington County Sheriff's Office reportedly returned "no records" for video of the surrender and booking. A 33-hour manhunt ended, and the ending was apparently not recorded.
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Interesting
- The ATF bullet-jacket match to the Mauser was inconclusive — gag orders and secrecy.
- Behind a five-inch lip, the prone sightline reportedly lands in the plaza, not on the stage.
- The rooftop figure performs a military lateral crawl and shows no limp, unlike the approach figure.