Rooftop-View Video Reportedly Trimmed and Withheld (Claims)
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Critics accuse the Utah County District Attorney's office and Utah Valley University of withholding the rooftop-view video files from the September 10, 2025 killing of Charlie Kirk, and of releasing only a clip that deliberately begins at 12:23:34 pm — a moment when, they say, a "runner" had already begun sprinting away from the alleged perch. The stated worry is that a start time chosen after the running begins hides the earlier seconds that, in the posters' reading, would make the official rooftop-shot timing impossible. The claims below are attributed and unproven; clip start times and amateur frame timing have ordinary explanations, and Tyler Robinson is charged, not convicted.
The claim
A widely shared post preserved in the master investigation file states that the DA and UVU "are deliberately hiding the rooftop-view video files from the public," and that "the RUNNER took off RUNNING early making that shot literally impossible." The poster alleges the released video was "deliberately trimmed and started at 12:23:34 pm when the runner was 60 ft away from the perch position." See the UVU surveillance page for the camera layout this claim relies on.
The runner-timing calculation
The poster's arithmetic, presented as an open calculation rather than a proven fact, runs as follows:
- Measure the visible run — reportedly about 220 feet in 15 seconds at the 12:23:34 pm timestamp — to derive the runner's speed.
- Extrapolate backward across the missing 60 feet to estimate when the run actually started.
- By that math, the poster concludes the runner began an all-out run at 12:23:28 pm and that Charlie Kirk was hit at 12:23:30 pm — meaning the runner was already moving two seconds before the shot.
The rhetorical charge attached to this is blunt: the poster calls it "criminal to deliberately and willfully hide information while pressing forward with charges against Tyler." That is an accusation and an interpretation, not a court finding. Reconstructing exact motion timing from compressed surveillance frames is notoriously error-prone, and the underlying full footage may exist in sealed discovery.
The "how did the rifle get on the roof" gap
Commentary attributed to Candace Owens frames a related evidentiary hole: that federal investigators "don't even have any footage that explains how exactly the rifle got onto the roof." Skeptics tie this to the trimmed-clip claim — arguing that if the earliest rooftop seconds and the rifle's arrival are both unshown, the public cannot independently check the official sequence. For the parallel dispute over when and how the weapon surfaced, see Gun Discovery Sequence.
Why it matters
If a rooftop clip really was cut to begin after the decisive moment, the missing seconds would be exactly the ones that bear on whether the official timing holds. That is why the episode is catalogued under Cover Up (Possible) — as an unresolved question about what the full, untrimmed footage would show, not as a proven act of concealment. The remedy, critics and defenders agree, is release of the complete files under proper chain of custody.
Counterarguments, skepticism, and innocent explanations
- Clip start times are chosen for many innocent reasons. Briefing clips are trimmed to the segment officials consider relevant; a 12:23:34 pm start does not by itself imply anything was hidden.
- Amateur frame-timing is unreliable. Deriving speed and back-calculating a start point from compressed video, with uncertain frame rates and camera geometry, can be off by seconds.
- Full footage may exist in sealed discovery. Withholding raw files pretrial is routine; the defense can obtain them and test the timing in court.
- The "no rifle-arrival footage" point cuts both ways. An absence of a particular angle is a gap, not evidence of deletion.
- Presumption of innocence. Utah County DA officials and UVU are living, named parties; none has been found by any court to have trimmed or hidden evidence, and Robinson is charged, not convicted.
Interesting In This Area
- UVU's HD originals and their per-frame timestamps have never reached the public.
- An officer's body camera reportedly stopped as he reached the same roof.
- Airborne surveillance tasking over that corridor is unreleased for separate reasons.
- The earliest rooftop figure was reportedly dressed entirely in black, prone and unidentified.
Interesting In Other Areas
- Frame counting puts ten or eleven running steps between the drop point and the corner.
- The roof timeline puts every rooftop event of that day in order.
- UVU campus surveillance is the system those clips were re-encoded out of.
- The claim the runner started before the shot turns on these seconds.
Other Pages In This Section
Cameras and SD Cards Removed From the Scene (Claims)
Reported claims that production AV staff, not police, pulled camera SD cards and unhooked cameras before any evidence seal. Kirk's own microphone audio has still never been released.
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Utah Law Banning Public Sharing of Autopsy Photos & Video (Claims)
Utah S.B. 82 made publicly sharing non-public autopsy photographs and video a class B misdemeanour, effective May 7, 2025 — about four months before September 10. The statute is real and verifiable; everything read into its timing is not.
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YouTube @HolonCitizen Appears Algorithmically Throttled (Claims)
The channel behind this investigation reports that recommended and search traffic sit at or near zero, so videos reach subscribers and almost nobody else. Extremely common for small channels — which is why the page keeps the ordinary explanation on the table.
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Autopsy Sealed and the Performing Examiner Kept Out of View (Claims)
Reported claims that the report stays sealed, that the pathologist who did the work has never been publicly named, and that an outside examiner became the public face of the wound explanation.
Read thisElsewhere In The Investigation
Frame-by-frame measurement of the running figure — ten or eleven steps from the alleged screwdriver drop point to the corner. The pace is the argument: it reads as rehearsed rather than panicked.
Read thisThe campus system is the backbone of the probable-cause affidavit — a first capture near 11:50 AM, a pause at the tunnel stairs, the Losee doors at 12:02. What it never captured is anything settling how Charlie Kirk was killed.
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The Claim the Runner Started Before the Shot (Claims)
An unattributed passage back-extrapolates the rooftop runner's start to 12:23:28, two seconds before the shot. The arithmetic assumes constant velocity from a standing start, which is exactly where the two seconds come from.
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Shooting Time Disputes (12:23 vs 12:27 MDT)
12:23 or 12:27 — the two times circulate as if interchangeable. They are not: four minutes changes who was where, and every timeline on the site depends on which is right.
Read thisSources
- Master investigation file, Charlie_Kirk.txt — post alleging the rooftop-view video was "deliberately trimmed and started at 12:23:34 pm when the runner was 60 ft away from the perch position," with the runner-began-at-12:23:28 / Kirk-hit-at-12:23:30 calculation.
- Surveillance stills referenced at timestamps 12:23:29, 12:23:34, 12:23:45, and 12:23:54 mapping movement toward the NE corner of the Losee Center (as characterized in circulating exhibits).
- Statement attributed to Candace Owens that investigators lack footage explaining how the rifle got onto the roof.
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Interesting
- Crew, tasking and FAA files for the Army jet over the corridor remain unreleased.
- Compilations claim interest in Tyler Robinson began well over a year before UVU.
- Rooftop and CCTV strings for the campus reportedly drew Israel-attributed interest in 2024.