UVU Records Redacted and Pre-Event Warnings Buried (Claims)
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This page catalogues a reported concern about the killing of Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University: that a public-records (GRAMA) release appears to show two men warning campus police about "a plan" the night before, and a separate September 9 email seeking to relay a message to Kirk — with all names and numbers redacted — while emergency-alert failures are documented and UVU has reportedly acknowledged that more records exist but declined to release them. This is presented as an open transparency question, not a finding that anyone withheld records improperly.
The claim
The Daily Caller News Foundation filed a GRAMA request that reportedly returned about 50 documents / 112 pages. Critics say the released pages contain two pre-event flags and an alert breakdown, yet the identifying details are redacted and further documents are held back — the pattern they argue is consistent with burying warnings rather than disclosing them.
The night-before warning
Per the released documents (UVU 25-330:0023, 0024), on 9/9/2025 at 10:35 PM, staff reported that two men "showed up asking to talk to police about a plan." The concern was escalated to the university cabinet / president's office. Roughly 44 minutes later, at 11:19 PM, the two were dismissed in the chat as "GOP reps who played like they knew more than they did." The documents reportedly do not record what "the plan" was, and the men's names are redacted.
The "message to Charlie Kirk" email
Also on September 9, at 2:23 PM, an email through UVU Police Chief Jeff Long's communication chain (subject "FYI") reportedly read: "He wants us to get a message to Charlie Kirk. His phone number is [REDACTED]." The sender's name and the phone number are redacted, and whether the message was ever delivered is not documented in the 112 pages.
The alert failures
- The Run-Hide-Fight alert sent 88 minutes after the shooting still contained placeholder text: "Shooter in [INSERT location]."
- The first alert, about 19 minutes after the shooting, falsely stated "suspect in custody" — reportedly leaving thousands of students on campus believing it was safe.
- Orem PD sent UVU the Charlie Kirk ticket link on September 3 (subject "Charlie Kirk Tickets"), then after the shooting said it was "not involved."
- The joint Public Order Unit that UVU reportedly pays Orem PD to maintain for exactly this kind of event was never activated (see perimeter and rooftop failures).
The withheld documents
According to @danksterintel, "UVU has acknowledged that additional documents exist and has refused to release them," with every name in the September 9 communications redacted under Utah exemptions for "security of public property" and "privacy." Skeptics ask why, months after the suspect was in custody and with no ongoing campus threat, the names remain hidden.
Why it matters
Two apparent pre-event flags and a documented alert breakdown, combined with redactions and acknowledged-but-withheld records, raise legitimate public-interest questions about what UVU knew and when. This is catalogued under Cover Up (Possible) as an unresolved records-transparency question — not as proof that anyone concealed a warning. The remedy is straightforward: release the unredacted records so the questions can be answered. Reported pre-event warnings like these sit alongside the online pre-knowledge posts that former NCTC director Joe Kent has cited on the record as his reason for saying "more than likely there's something else at play."
Counterarguments, skepticism, and innocent explanations
- GRAMA exemptions are routine. Utah's records law commonly redacts personal identifiers and security details; redaction is not by itself evidence of a cover-up.
- Template placeholders are a known failure mode. "[INSERT location]" and premature "suspect in custody" wording are common emergency-software and human-error failures under chaos, not proof of intent.
- "Additional records withheld" is often lawful. Agencies routinely hold back documents under valid exemptions or because a prosecution is active.
- The night-before flag may be a nonevent. If the two men truly were unhelpful walk-ins, dismissing them as "played like they knew more" could be an accurate, innocent read.
- No wrongdoing established. Chief Jeff Long, UVU officials, and Orem PD personnel are living public figures presumed innocent; none has been found by any court to have concealed anything.
Interesting In This Area
- UVU HD exports stay unreleased while press clips arrive grainy and re-encoded.
- The FBI subpoenaed Archive.today fifty days after the killing, twenty after a plant blast.
- Officer Bagley's bodycam ended at the roof; rooftop video reportedly starts late.
- Pre-event personnel swaps changed judge, FBI field office and hospital chief within weeks.
Interesting In Other Areas
- Two men warned UVU the night before, and the Public Order Unit never activated.
- Orem PD sent the ticket link September 3, then said it was not involved.
- Pre-event searches and recon collect the same foreknowledge question from the other direction.
- Campus security gaps and screening credential gaps explain how a roof stayed open.
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Read thisX @HolonCitizen Appears Demonetized and Throttled (Claims)
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Fifty days after the killing, the FBI subpoenaed the registrar behind Archive.today — the one archive that is genuinely hard to delete from. The operator answered by publishing the document itself with a single word: "canary."
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Phone-Extraction Filing Contradicts Courtroom Testimony (Claims)
A prosecution filing reportedly said the state did not intend to offer evidence obtained through forensic extractions of the seized electronics. In the same proceeding an agent testified that a Cellebrite extraction of the roommate's phone was performed, personally reviewed, and used to build the text timeline.
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Pre-Shooting Warnings: Two Men Contacted UVU the Night Before
GRAMA records obtained by the Daily Caller News Foundation show two separate attempts to flag the event the day before — men asking police about "a plan," and a request that a message reach Charlie Kirk. Both were reportedly dismissed or left undocumented.
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Six campus officers, no thorough rooftop inspection, and a prone all-black figure reportedly on the same roof an hour before the shot. The clearest physical security failure under any theory of the killing.
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Reported Pre‑Event Searches and Reconnaissance (Claims)
Google Trends compilations claim UVU rooftops, parking and CCTV drew search spikes from May 2025, and that seven Timpanogos surgeons spiked inside a single July fortnight. Aggregate trend data cannot show who searched or why, and the page says so on every claim.
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Orem PD sent UVU the ticket link a week before the event, then said afterwards it was "not involved." The joint public-order unit UVU pays for every year was never activated.
Read thisSources
- Daily Caller News Foundation GRAMA records request (approximately 50 documents / 112 pages), document references UVU 25-330:0023, 0024, 0079, 0080.
- @danksterintel (Danks), https://x.com/danksterintel/status/2044300845609824305 (April 15, 2026) — summary of the released records, the September 9 warnings, and the withheld-documents acknowledgment.
- Master investigation file: "UVU GRAMA Records / Pre-Shooting Warnings" section, including the Run-Hide-Fight placeholder alert and the "suspect in custody" alert.
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Interesting
- No footage exists of the alleged nest because a body camera died on the roof.
- The yellow jet reportedly went dark at 9:05 AM and reactivated seventeen minutes after the shot.
- It was not one stray aircraft: a cluster of Egyptian government jets cycled through Utah.
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