Wound Trajectory & Angle
Independent analysts argue the reported wound track does not fit a .30-06 fired from the Losee Center rooftop (~150 yards east) at a 5–9° downward angle. Tyler Robinson is the accused shooter in that official geometry.
If the geometry does not close, the shot does not explain the wound — and the explanation most independent analysts have settled on for how Charlie Kirk was killed is a device at the microphone rather than a round from the roof.
Official downward-angle claim
Commentary summarized in the investigation file (including @_DaniFesto quoting @AndrewKolvet) states prosecutors want the public to accept:
- "Bullet" entered at C2 from ~5–9° downward
- Missed face and jaw "magically"
- Traveled to C6/C7 and into thoracic cavity
Losee geometry problem
If Tyler Robinson fired from the Losee rooftop:
| Prediction | Commentary |
|---|---|
| Downward angle 5–9° | Would most likely enter face or jaw first |
| Observed entry | Between larynx and trachea, left of cervical spine |
| Shot character | More straight-on than steep rooftop descent |
Hence the blunt conclusion in the file: "Tyler Robinson did not shoot Charlie Kirk" — presented here as commentator inference, not a court finding.
East vs south origin
A separate thread in the investigation file argues:
- Bullet came from the south (steeper down angle) — not Tyler's alleged east rooftop position
- A .30-06 from the east would "blow his neck out" and deposit blood on the white tarp behind Kirk — disputed against public scene descriptions
See Possible Shooter Locations for south stairs / balcony alternatives.
Sound-sync distance argument
A separate acoustic thread in the investigation file argues the origin distance itself is wrong:
- Video and audio analysis reportedly show the crowd heard the shot and saw Kirk hit at the same time.
- For a rifle fired from 150 yards (the stated Losee rooftop distance), the bullet — traveling faster than sound — should strike before the report reaches the camera, given the speed of the bullet versus the speed of sound.
- Because the sound and impact appear simultaneous in the footage, analysts conclude the shot had to come from a closer proximity — roughly 50 yards or less, not 150 yards — since the camera's distance from Kirk is known.
This is presented as commentator acoustic analysis, not an adjudicated finding, but it points in the same direction as the angle argument: a closer, lower-energy origin than the official rooftop position.
Spine vertebra path (C2 → C6/C7)
The C2 entry → C6/C7 → thoracic path is used in both official and critical analyses. Disagreement is about whether a long-range .30-06 produces that path from Losee without striking face/jaw first — especially when combined with energy mismatch arguments.
No-exit and tarp blood
Medical threads note:
- Treating physician reportedly said bullet did not exit ("absolute miracle" framing)
- Witness Nick and others describe different exit/back-spray expectations for rifle rounds
Full medical catalog: Autopsy — Wound Theories.
Proof Not Tyler cross-link
Parallel page: Trajectory & Wound Mismatch.
Citizen Investigator Claims on X (Attributed)
Ballistics is one of the most active Kirk threads on X.
- ATF inconclusive: @TheQuartering notes defense filings cite ATF experts "unable to identify" the fragmented bullet to the specific Mauser—not a finding the bullet "wasn't .30-06." @ShekandaPeoples explains jacket suitable / lead unsuitable / insufficient individual characteristics.
- Counter: @misfitpatriot_ argues soft-point .30-06 should fragment and that non-match is being overclaimed; @OfVoice35353 cites hearing testimony that fragments measure ~.286–.301" and fit the .30 cal family.
- Energy / trajectory skeptics recirculate charts comparing ~3950 J rifle energy to observed wound and argue Losee roof angles (5–9°) and C2 path problems—see sibling pages.
DaniFesto/Kolvet-class trajectory threads: south vs east origin, straight-on neck entry vs elevated roof geometry—actively disputed in 2026 hearing commentary.
All ballistics claims await full public exhibits and independent review. No living examiner is accused of crime as site fact.
Interesting In This Area
- A .30-06 carries roughly 3,950 joules against a 9mm's 482.
- The ATF comparison returned a class, not a weapon: numerous makes and models.
- Proposed alternatives place the source at crowd level, not on the Losee rooftop.
- A claim recorded in the master file says a bullet lodged in the stage was removed.
Interesting In Other Areas
- The spinal cord would settle the trajectory argument, and it is missing from the account.
- A five-inch roof lip sits between a prone figure and any view downward.
- Two commenters identifying as surgeon and cardiologist said the injuries do not fit one round.
- Proponents agree the neck wound is an exit, then contradict each other on origin.
Other Pages In This Section

Weapon and ammunition analysis in one place — the Mauser narrative, the inconclusive ATF comparison, the energy gap, the trajectory problem, and the alternatives proposed when those fail. Start here before judging any single ballistics claim.
Read thisGun & Bullet Investigation Index
The government's kill chain needs three links — Mauser, Losee rooftop, fatal wound. This memo routes each link to the page that tests it, and lists the disclosure targets that would settle the whole argument in an afternoon.
Read this
A .30-06 round carries roughly 3,950 joules against a 9mm's 482. Commentators argue the wound described publicly does not match that energy — the arithmetic is not disputed, the inference is.
Read this
A claim recorded in the master file says a bullet was lodged in the wooden stage, and that it was removed. If a second projectile existed and left before independent documentation, it belongs in a chain-of-custody log nobody has produced.
Read thisElsewhere In The Investigation

The Missing Spinal Cord: When Was It Removed?
The spinal cord is the part of the body that would settle the trajectory argument, and it is the part missing from the account. When it was removed, and by whom, is still unanswered publicly.
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Line of Sight Behind the Roof Lip
A five-inch roof lip sits between a prone figure set back from the edge and any view down into the courtyard. The geometry question is simple: what could he actually see?
Read this
Is the Front Neck Wound an Entrance or an Exit? (Claims)
Proponents agree the front neck wound is an exit, then contradict each other completely about where the shot came from — high and behind, or from inside the tent. None has produced medical documentation, and video cannot settle a wound margin.
Read thisThe argument that a rooftop .30-06 cannot match the reported neck wound path, the energy, or the blood evidence. It is the single thread connecting almost every cause-of-death dispute on this site.
Read thisThis website's author is @HolonCitizen on X and YouTube/@HolonCitizen. Follow me there.
Interesting
- A hinged 9mm system fired from the tent or a grey van is among the proposed mechanisms.
- GRAMA records report no active-shooter training for UVU faculty and no proof of rooftop clearance.
- A dormant LLC was revived weeks before the event, reportedly without public bidding.
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