The Candace Owens Broadcasts About the Egyptian Planes
Almost everything in this directory traces back to a broadcast. The X posts are the trail the broadcasts left; the press coverage is the trail the posts left. This page is the broadcast layer itself — what was said on air, on which show, in which words — because the show is where the numbers, the timings and the contractor claims were first stated, and the show is what every later source is paraphrasing.
Candace Owens made these claims publicly, under her own name, on her own program, and she may be named as the person who made them. That is the only naming this page does. Crew, passengers, ground staff and the people described as contractors are unnamed living persons and stay unnamed — except where an identification was already public and on the record, and then only as reported.
Everything below is a reported claim, not an established fact. No public record establishes who tasked any of these aircraft, in any direction. Where the shows conflict with each other, the conflict is recorded rather than reconciled.
The claim's spine, in her own words
The clearest single passage is from the 17 November 2025 episode — the "Operation Mocking-Plane" show, the one where the whole allegation pivoted from Charlie to Erika. Transcript excerpt:
"It turns out that she was correct. She discovered that between 2022 and September uh of 2025, both of those aircrafts, SUBTT, the yellow plane, and SUBND, the blue plane, showed 68 overlaps with Erica's documented loca locations. Okay, 68 overlaps. I have since been able to add now uh 73 times that this overlapped. Okay.
And 29 of those instances also happened to include Charlie. Charlie was also present. These are all the instances um uh in which this plane 60 all 68 instances that this plane crossed with Erica.
And I'm also going to say this includes overseas as well. So my instant question becomes, why didn't Turning Point acknowledge that this plane was familiar to them?
And when it comes to these Egyptian flights, the math on this is indisputable. There is less than a 0.000000001% probability. Okay, under random distribution models that these Egyptian planes coincidentally landed around Erica at these times.
Like I said, this plane was not just with her in America. It was also tracking her overseas as well."
Four separate things are happening in that passage and they should be pulled apart:
- The count was 68 and became 73 on air, in the same breath. The 68 is credited to another researcher's work; the additional five are Owens's own additions. The two figures were never reconciled into one sourced list. This is the origin of the count dispute that runs through this entire directory — 68, 70+, 72, 73, 77, and Liz Wheeler's reduction to 1.
- 29 of them also included Charlie. Note what that implies about the rest: on her own numbers, roughly 39 to 44 of the overlaps did not involve Charlie Kirk at all.
- "Overseas as well." The claim is not confined to US fields. No overseas leg has ever been published as a dated pairing.
- The 0.000000001% figure is not a calculation anybody can check. No model, no assumptions, no airport-population denominator, and no list of the compared locations has been published. A probability claim with no denominator is rhetoric with a decimal point in it. It is quoted here because she said it, not because it computes.
And the load-bearing weakness sits underneath all four. Every one of those numbers is measured against Erika Kirk's locations, and Erika's side is the weak side: her flight logs are reported as erased, so an "overlap with Erika" is the foreign aircraft's ADS-B track plus a claimed location for her. See Erika Flight Logs Erased. This repo holds exactly one sourced record placing Erika Kirk at a TPUSA event before 10 September 2025 — the June 2025 Young Women's Leadership Summit, and even that has no day of the month. A 73-item tally cannot be checked against a one-item calendar. Do not substitute Charlie's itinerary for hers; the show's own numbers say the two counts differ by a factor of about three.
The September 10 transponder timings
From the same 17 November 2025 transcript. This is the most precise thing said in any of the broadcasts, and precision is the reason to record it exactly:
"On the day of Charlie's assassination, we know the yellow plane took off in the morning, but the blue plane did not take off in the morning. The blue plane, SUBND, did however power on. ... On September 10th, on the day of Charlie's assassination, this plane first transponded from 9:05 a.m. plus 36 seconds until it was turned off at 10:34 a.m. and 5 seconds. Then the plane turned back on. The transponder was turned back on just 17 minutes after Charlie was shot at 12:40 p.m. and 53 seconds, and it stayed on until 1:29 p.m. and 40 seconds."
Stated as a table, because the seconds are the whole point of the claim:
| Event | Time (as stated on air) | Duration |
|---|---|---|
| SU-BND transponder on | 09:05:36 | — |
| Transponder off | 10:34:05 | 1 h 28 min 29 s |
| Transponder back on — stated as 17 minutes after the shooting | 12:40:53 | — |
| Transponder off | 13:29:40 | 48 min 47 s |
| Aircraft movement | None. It did not take off. | — |
What is genuinely notable: a parked aircraft's transponder cycling twice on that specific day, with the second cycle starting minutes after the shooting. A transponder on a stationary aircraft is normally either off or on with the power; two clean cycles is activity.
What is not established, and the page says so plainly:
- The time base is not stated. Local Mountain Time or UTC changes the meaning completely — and a UTC-versus-local confusion is exactly the error that produced the disputed SU-BTT departure time for the same morning, which is recorded on the Provo page and on SU-BTT. Precision to the second is not accuracy about the hour.
- A separate tracker read gives different framing. John Cullen's reading, relayed on X, puts the power-on at roughly 21 minutes before the shot and the power cycle about an hour after — not 17 minutes after. Both readings are in the record and they do not agree.
- "Turned on" assumes a hand on a switch. Transponder returns start and stop for ordinary reasons: ground power connected or pulled, an APU run, a maintenance check, a crew running a pre-flight that was then scrubbed, or simply a receiver-coverage gap in the ADS-B feed rather than the transmitter going quiet. An absence in ADS-B data is not proof of a covert act, and a presence is not proof of intent.
- Nobody has produced the raw ADS-B archive for hex code 0101xx at Provo on 10 September 2025. It would settle the time base and the cycles in minutes.
The minute-by-minute of that day belongs to the September 10 flight timeline, not to this directory. This page records what the broadcast said; that page holds the day.
Show by show
The episodes below are the ones in which the plane story advanced. Titles and billings are as published; the show-bill posts themselves are quoted in full on the X discussions page.
| Date | What the show added |
|---|---|
| ~12 Oct 2025 | The first on-air treatment of SU-BTT at Provo, and the time-zone correction to the departure time that critics have cited ever since. |
| 30–31 Oct 2025 | The two-aircraft framing — a yellow plane and a blue plane — and the "Kash Patel protecting Egypt" line. |
| 17 Nov 2025 | "Operation Mocking-Plane." The 68→73 revision, the 29-with-Charlie split, the 0.000000001% claim, the second-level transponder timings, and the pivot to Erika, not Charlie, as the tracked person. |
| 19 Nov 2025 | "Why did the Egyptian Plane land in Delaware and stay the night on the 9/10? The answer may be much crazier than we think. Who called the hit on Charlie Kirk?" — billed in advance as "another absolutely explosive episode … and again, that's not an exaggeration." The Delaware leg is Wilmington. |
| 21 Nov 2025 | "The Egyptian planes hold the key to the Charlie Kirk assassination. We reveal more information." Same show bill also carried a Mike Huckabee segment and a Tim Dillon segment — recorded here only because the plane item shared the billing. |
| 21 Nov 2025 (post) | The 920 N King Street claim, and the response to a "fake debunking" trend. See below. |
| 4 Dec 2025 | "We have a MAJOR update regarding our Egyptian planes. Another piece of the puzzle locks in." Same bill: "Turning Point issues an unnecessary and frankly odd 24 hour deadline." |
| 10 Dec 2025 | "Erika Kirk GOES OFF on 'conspiracy theorists' (read: me) … We learn about what Erika told Bari Weiss about those pesky Egyptian planes. And to be honest, it's weird." |
| 14 Dec 2025 (posts) | The exchange over Erika Kirk's on-camera response. Quoted in full below. |
| 19 Jul 2026 | "Just so you know— I still stand by every single one of those statements. LOL. You clearly don't watch my show enough. The Egyptian planes were involved. The receipt belongs to Tyler Robinson. 🤷♀️ Save this one too." |
| Aug 2026 | Jimmy Dore covers the story; the Sharm el-Sheikh tarmac sighting becomes the new "receipt." |
Episode numbers circulating for the plane-related shows include 255, 256, 266, 268 and 274. Those numbers come from third-party episode listings rather than from a first-party archive this repo holds, so they are recorded as pointers, not as citations. The dates above are the reliable index.
The contractor and rental-car claims
Across the shows and the posts amplifying them, the Provo-side allegation has a consistent shape and no published documentation:
- SU-BTT landed at Provo on 4 September 2025, six days before the assassination, having flown Cairo → Paris → Minot → Provo.
- It was carrying "Egyptians" described as military contractors — the number given varies, with 12 to 14 in some tellings and 4–6 in the counter-UAS version carried on the Provo page.
- They deplaned at Provo and took rental cars from Duncan Aviation at the Provo FBO.
- On 10 September the aircraft departed with only four people aboard — "the contractors were gone" — laid over at Wilmington, Delaware overnight, and returned to Cairo on 11 September.
- Some versions name a foreign dignitary travelling as "Walid Mahmoud" on a Provo leg, and describe an onward transfer after arrival. The passenger identity is unverified, and the same name is attached in other posts to the separate 27 May 2025 SU-BTU arrival — an unresolved conflict about which leg and which aircraft.
- Broadcasts and amplifiers appealed for manifests, photographs, and rental-car plate numbers, circulating candidate Utah plates — T092ZS and Z349AA among them — and asking viewers to send tips.
None of this has a document behind it. Specifically:
- No manifest for any leg has been published, by anybody, ever — the first item on this directory's what-we-do-not-know list.
- No FBO record, fuel ticket, or rental agreement has been produced for the Provo stop.
- No Duncan Aviation work order or invoice has been produced for any of these visits, at Provo or Lincoln — and a single one would resolve most of this directory in one direction or the other.
- The plate numbers are crowd-sourced candidates, not records. They are listed here because the appeal was public, not because the plates are established. A plate number is a pointer to a private individual; nothing on this site treats one as an accusation.
- "Military contractors" is a characterisation, not an identification. Nobody aboard has been publicly identified in a way this site can carry, beyond the single reported name above.
The counter-explanation is specific and it is strong here. Duncan Aviation operates at both Provo and Lincoln; trackers themselves date the Egyptian Air Force account to 1999, under a contract announced in 2015. Crews and technicians ferrying an aircraft to a service centre rent cars at the FBO — that is what the FBO rental desk is for. John Cullen, who put N1098L on the map in the first place, argues the Provo stay is a Falcon maintenance visit. A rental car from an FBO is not evidence of an operation.
The 920 N King Street claim
@RealCandaceO, 21 November 2025:
"Looks like another round of a desperate and fake debunking regarding the Egyptian planes!
These federally-sponsored trends are as fun as they are predictable now :-)
And I can tell you guys with absolute certainty that today I learned the Federal government is in a panic about the mention of their joint DHS, FBI, and DEA office at 920 N King. The tip proved absolutely solid and I was informed so.
It is now a fact that a foreign dignitary was picked up after arriving from Provo the morning of Charlie's assassination on the Egyptian plane, and then transferred to 920 King for some joint operation.
And yes, despite the massive office space, there is NOTHING else in that building except a law firm (and a place to eat).
The law firm piece is an interesting side fact related to portions of the e-mail that I chose not to read on air.
Yet. Stay tuned!"
This is the sharpest thing said in any of the broadcasts, and it is the thinnest sourced. It is recorded here in full because it was said publicly, and then read honestly:
- "It is now a fact" is doing the work of a citation. The stated basis is a tip and an unnamed party who "informed" her the tip was solid. No document, badge log, FBO record, vehicle record, or building record has been published.
- The address is in Wilmington, Delaware — the Wilmington overnight leg, which in the flight record is the fleet's outbound customs stop, used on the outbound leg only, twenty-one times across three years, never inbound. A federal office near a customs field is not a coincidence that needs explaining.
- A shared DHS/FBI/DEA office suite in a mid-Atlantic city is ordinary. Task-force space is routinely co-located.
- "Some joint operation" names nothing. No operation, no participants, no purpose.
- The tenancy claim is checkable and nobody has checked it publicly. Whether that building holds only a law firm and a food vendor is a matter of public leasing records.
- The "federally-sponsored trends" framing is unfalsifiable. It converts disagreement into evidence of the thing being disagreed about — which is the structure that lets a hostile reader dismiss the sourced parts along with it.
Erika Kirk's response, and the exchange over it
Erika Kirk publicly disputed the location claims — on camera, and in a town-hall setting; the fuller press record of her responses is on the press coverage page. The on-air exchange that followed, from @RealCandaceO on 14 December 2025, is quoted here because both halves of a dispute belong in the same place:
"'You really think I am going to be on an Egyptian Plane when I am wanting to be with my "In N Out" burger and my chocolate milkshake?!' -Erika Kirk, completely dodging the question by confronting a claim that we never made.
Literally NO ONE accused Erika or Charlie of flying on Egyptian planes and no, you were not pregnant for the last 4 years."
And, the same day, the statement Owens said she had been looking for:
"The correct statement the world was looking for 'I actually had no idea there were Egyptian planes that were there that day and I have no idea why they seem to have crossed into so many cities that Charlie or myself or other TPUSA faith people were speaking in. It could very well just be a coincidence, but I obviously sent that right over to the FBI— just in case it's not. We're leaving no stone unturned'."
Both people are describing a real gap between what was alleged and what was answered, and they are describing it from opposite sides. The allegation was never that the Kirks flew aboard these aircraft; it was that the aircraft turned up where they were. A denial of the first does not address the second. Equally, the second claim has never been demonstrated as a dated list — which is the count dispute in one sentence.
The pregnancy remark is a personal aside about a living person and is quoted only because it is part of the exchange. This site takes no position on it and it has no bearing on any flight record.
What the broadcasts did not establish
The honest ledger, because the shows are the origin of nearly everything in this directory:
- A dated, sourced list of the 73 overlaps has never been published. The spreadsheet that circulated instead was audited on X and found to use a ±3-day window and 50–100 mile radius, to contain duplicated rows that were counted, to read "No" in its own
Charlie Presentcolumn on 32 of 35 visible rows, and to source Erika's location to an undated "Instagram confirms presence" note. See the X discussions page and the hub audit. - The 0.000000001% probability has no published model.
- The 68→73 revision was never reconciled into one list.
- No manifest, FBO record, work order, badge log, or rental agreement has ever been produced for any leg.
- The transponder timings have no stated time base, and a second tracker's reading of the same cycles disagrees.
- The claim that TPUSA asked people to stop discussing the planes is relayed via an unnamed federal source. It is recorded as a relayed account, which under this section's rules ranks below any primary record — and no primary record on it exists either way.
- The Missouri 2023 pairings cited in related reporting resolve, on this site's own St. Louis page, to a TPUSA Faith launch two hours' drive from the airport the aircraft used.
What survives all of it is the same narrow core that survives the sceptics' audit: a foreign state VIP aircraft sat at a small Utah municipal field for the six days before the assassination, left the morning of it, and nobody has published who was aboard. That claim does not need the 73, the 0.000000001%, or 920 N King. The wide version is what a hostile reviewer reaches for first — and reaching for it lets them throw out the narrow one at the same time.
Links
- Up: Following overview · Planes Following Charlie or Erika · Planes overview
- The posts: X Discussions of the Following Planes · the press: Press coverage
- The person: Candace Owens
- Locations named on air: Provo · Wilmington · Minot · Omaha · Wichita · St. Louis · Cairo · Sharm el-Sheikh
- Tails: SU-BTT · SU-BND · SU-BTU
- The weak side of every count: Erika Flight Logs Erased
- The day itself: September 10 flight timeline
Interesting
- Lincoln holds the 1999 Duncan Aviation account that is the strongest answer to the contractor story.
- Minot is where the people described as contractors would actually have cleared customs — and nobody has asked North Dakota for anything.
- Sharm el-Sheikh is the one 2026 development that narrowed anything.