The nine rows claiming both Kirks together
Where this came from. On the Following overview, the table that sorts the claimed overlaps by whose presence the compilation actually asserts carries a row reading "Overlaps claiming Charlie and Erika together", and the cell beside it prints 9. This page is those nine rows, one line each, with the aircraft, the airport, the claimed date, the sourced appearance if there is one, and both verdicts. The overview also states that the nine resolve to five dates; the register agrees — 9 rows, 5 distinct dates.
What this slice is
A row is in this list when the reconstructed register in overlaps.csv records Charlie Kirk as claimed present and Erika Kirk as claimed present on the same row — the attendee class CHARLIE_AND_ERIKA. "Claimed" is the compilers' assertion, reproduced here; it is not a finding by this site. On none of these rows is Erika Kirk's presence established by any evidence at all. Charlie Kirk's presence is established on some of them — but always from event listings and press coverage catalogued in the speaking-events index, never from an aircraft record. Rows naming only one Kirk, and rows matched to a Turning Point event with neither Kirk claimed, are excluded and sit in the sibling slices linked at the foot of this page.
At a glance
| Measure | Value |
|---|---|
| Rows in this slice | 9 |
| Distinct dates | 5 |
| Date range | 23 April 2024 – 10 September 2025 |
| Aircraft named | SU-BTT alone 4 · SU-BND alone 3 · both tails on one row 2 |
| Airports | KPVU 6 · KICT 3 |
| States | UT 5 · KS 3 · UT/DE 1 |
| Years | 2024: 1 · 2025: 8 |
| ADS-B verdict | At the claimed airport — corroborated 6 · Not heard 3 |
| Audit verdict | Accurate 5 · Inaccurate 4 |
| Ground confirmations (on-ground flag set in a stored trace) | 6 |
| Rows falling on a day this site independently sources a Kirk or TPUSA appearance | 4 |
| Rows where Erika Kirk's presence is established | 0 |
| Who the sheet claims | Both Kirks — all 9 rows |
TABLE A — the following aircraft
| Row | Date claimed | Airport | City / State | Following aircraft | Type | ICAO hex | Arrived from | Departed to | Ground stay logged, arrived | Departed | Days | Transponder / ground flag | ADS-B verdict | Closest approach |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| SITE-004 | 23 April 2024 | KPVU Provo Municipal Airport | Salt Lake City (event) / Provo (aircraft), UT | SU-BTT, SU-BND — both named on the row | Dassault Falcon 7X (0101D3); Gulfstream 4SP (01003E) | 0101D3; 01003E | SU-BTT: Paris-Le Bourget -> Williston ND (KXWA) -> Provo, landing 12:13 pm 23 Apr. SU-BND: Goose Bay -> SALT LAKE CITY (KSLC) -> Provo, 19 Apr 3:33 pm | SU-BTT: Wilmington 28 Apr, Cairo 30 Apr. SU-BND: 12 Jul 2024 (reported) | 23 April 2024 | 28 April 2024 | 5 | on | At the claimed airport — corroborated | 0.00 km — on the ground |
| OWENS-033 | 15 March 2025 | KICT Wichita (claimed) | Wichita, KS | SU-BTT | Dassault Falcon 7X | 0101D3 | Wichita (claimed) | Wilmington / Cairo (claimed) | no logged stay covers this date | — | — | — | Not heard | — |
| OWENS-063 | 15 March 2025 | KICT Wichita (claimed) | Wichita, KS | SU-BTT | Dassault Falcon 7X | 0101D3 | Wichita (claimed) | Wilmington / Cairo (claimed) | no logged stay covers this date | — | — | — | Not heard | — |
| OWENS-034 | 22 March 2025 | KICT Wichita (claimed) | Wichita, KS | SU-BTT | Dassault Falcon 7X | 0101D3 | Wichita (claimed) | Wilmington / Cairo (claimed) | no logged stay covers this date | — | — | — | Not heard | — |
| OWENS-035 | 23 May 2025 | KPVU Provo Municipal | Provo, UT | SU-BND | Gulfstream (G550/G-IV, trackers disagree) | 01003E | not recorded | sat until 2025-09-13 (113 days) | 23 May 2025 | 13 September 2025 | 113 | on the ground, transmitting | At the claimed airport — corroborated | 0.03 km — on the ground |
| OWENS-065 | 23 May 2025 | KPVU Provo Municipal | Provo, UT | SU-BND | Gulfstream (G550/G-IV, trackers disagree) | 01003E | not recorded | sat until 2025-09-13 | 23 May 2025 | 13 September 2025 | 113 | on the ground, transmitting | At the claimed airport — corroborated | 0.03 km — on the ground |
| EXTRA-006 | 10 September 2025 | KPVU Provo Municipal | Provo, UT | SU-BND | Gulfstream (G550/G-IV, trackers disagree) | 01003E | Provo ramp since 2025-05-23 | did not take off 9/10; left 9/13 | 23 May 2025 | 13 September 2025 | 113 | ON 09:05:36 / OFF 10:34:05 / ON 12:40:53 / OFF 13:29:40 (Owens 17 Nov 2025, time base… | At the claimed airport — corroborated | 1.29 km — on the ground |
| OWENS-041 | 10 September 2025 | KPVU Provo Municipal (origin) then Wilmington | Provo then Wilmington, UT/DE | SU-BTT | Dassault Falcon 7X | 0101D3 | Provo ramp (not Paris) | Wilmington evening 9/10 then Cairo 9/11 | 4 September 2025 | 10 September 2025 | 6 | on the ground, transmitting | At the claimed airport — corroborated | 1.23 km — on the ground |
| SITE-006 | 10 September 2025 | KPVU Provo Municipal Airport | Orem (event) / Provo (aircraft), UT | SU-BTT, SU-BND — both named on the row | Dassault Falcon 7X (0101D3); Gulfstream 4SP (01003E) | 0101D3; 01003E | SU-BTT: Paris-Le Bourget -> Minot ND (KMOT, landed 11:03 am, departed ~11:45 am) -> Provo, 4 Sept 12:46 pm. SU-BND: Paris -> Goose Bay -> Minot -> Provo, 23 May 2:38 pm | SU-BTT: Wilmington (KILG), 10 Sept - TIME DISPUTED. SU-BND: 13 Sept 12:57 pm -> Goose Bay -> Paris -> Cairo | 4 September 2025 | 10 September 2025 | 6 | SU-BTT on. SU-BND ON THE GROUND, TRANSPONDER REPORTED ACTIVE, NO TAKEOFF | At the claimed airport — corroborated | 1.23 km — on the ground |
TABLE B — who they are claimed to have been following
| Row | Date claimed | Who the sheet claims was present | Erika location as the sheet gives it | Sourced Kirk / TPUSA appearance same day | Venue | Local time | Nearest airport to that venue | Kirk-side aircraft on record |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| SITE-004 | 23 April 2024 | Charlie: claimed · Erika: claimed | Utah | Charlie — Prove Me Wrong — University of Utah, Salt Lake City, UT | University of Utah | — | KSLC — Salt Lake City International, 5 mi | none recorded |
| OWENS-033 | 15 March 2025 | Charlie: claimed · Erika: claimed | Kansas / Delaware | None same-day. Register's nearest sourced appearance: Charlie at UCLA Los Angeles 2025-03-03; Gainesville 2025-03-18 (neither Kansas) (register, gap not stated) · Nearest in the events catalog: Charlie — American Comeback Tour — University of Tennessee, Knoxville, TN (-2 days) | — | — | — | none recorded |
| OWENS-063 | 15 March 2025 | Charlie: claimed · Erika: claimed | Kansas / Delaware | None same-day. Register's nearest sourced appearance: none in KS (register, gap not stated) · Nearest in the events catalog: Charlie — American Comeback Tour — University of Tennessee, Knoxville, TN (-2 days) | — | — | — | none recorded |
| OWENS-034 | 22 March 2025 | Charlie: claimed · Erika: claimed | Kansas / Delaware | None same-day. Register's nearest sourced appearance: none in KS March 2025 (register, gap not stated) | — | — | — | none recorded |
| OWENS-035 | 23 May 2025 | Charlie: claimed · Erika: claimed | Utah | None same-day. Register's nearest sourced appearance: Charlie San Francisco 2025-05-06; YWLS Grapevine TX 2025-06-13 (neither Provo). No sourced Kirk presence at Provo during the 113-day stay. (register, gap not stated) | — | — | — | none recorded |
| OWENS-065 | 23 May 2025 | Charlie: claimed · Erika: claimed | Utah | None same-day. Register's nearest sourced appearance: none in UT 23 May 2025 (register, gap not stated) | — | — | — | none recorded |
| EXTRA-006 | 10 September 2025 | Charlie: claimed · Erika: claimed | disputed: sheet Nebraska/Delaware vs Erika Arizona | Charlie — The American Comeback Tour — UVU (first stop of the fall tour), Orem, UT | Utah Valley University, Sorensen Center courtyard | event ~10:00 MDT announced; shot at 12:23:30 PM MDT | KPVU — Provo Municipal Airport, 5 mi | none recorded |
| OWENS-041 | 10 September 2025 | Charlie: claimed · Erika: claimed | Nebraska / Delaware (spreadsheet) vs Arizona (Erika's own account) | Charlie — The American Comeback Tour — UVU (first stop of the fall tour), Orem, UT | Utah Valley University, Sorensen Center courtyard | event ~10:00 MDT announced; shot at 12:23:30 PM MDT | KPVU — Provo Municipal Airport, 5 mi | none recorded |
| SITE-006 | 10 September 2025 | Charlie: claimed · Erika: claimed | DISPUTED: 'Nebraska/Delaware' (spreadsheet) vs ARIZONA (Erika Kirk's own account) | Charlie — The American Comeback Tour — UVU (first stop of the fall tour), Orem, UT | Utah Valley University, Sorensen Center courtyard | event ~10:00 MDT announced; shot at 12:23:30 PM MDT | KPVU — Provo Municipal Airport, 5 mi | none recorded |
TABLE C — sourcing and both verdicts
| Row | Sheet index | Audit verdict (tracking-site pass) | ADS-B verdict (position data) | What the position data says | Source of the claim | Source post | Full row page |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
SITE-004 | — | Accurate | At the claimed airport — corroborated | CORROBORATED, AND ON THE GROUND. A trace we pulled and kept puts this airframe on the ground 0.0 km from KPVU on the claimed date. It places NOBODY aboard. | Researcher-compiled timeline circulated on X; audit index 26 ('Acc 4/22-23. Williston code XWA'), index 27 | — | open |
OWENS-033 | 33 | Inaccurate | Not heard | SAYS ALMOST NOTHING. adsb-lol/airplanes-live served other airframes that day but holds no trace for this one. Parked with the transponder off, outside receiver coverage, and a wrong claimed date all look identical from here. AN… | Owens sheet via Kanekoa audit; Following-Charlie-Erika.mdx on Charlie Present = Yes for 3/15/2025, 3/22/2025, 5/23/2025 | post | open |
OWENS-063 | 63 | Inaccurate | Not heard | SAYS ALMOST NOTHING. adsb-lol/airplanes-live served other airframes that day but holds no trace for this one. Parked with the transponder off, outside receiver coverage, and a wrong claimed date all look identical from here. AN… | Owens sheet via Kanekoa audit | post | open |
OWENS-034 | 34 | Inaccurate | Not heard | SAYS ALMOST NOTHING. adsb-lol/airplanes-live served other airframes that day but holds no trace for this one. Parked with the transponder off, outside receiver coverage, and a wrong claimed date all look identical from here. AN… | Owens sheet via Kanekoa audit; Following-Charlie-Erika.mdx Charlie Present extract | post | open |
OWENS-035 | 35 | Accurate | At the claimed airport — corroborated | CORROBORATED, AND ON THE GROUND. A trace we pulled and kept puts this airframe on the ground 0.0 km from KPVU on the claimed date. It places NOBODY aboard. | Owens sheet via Kanekoa audit (ACCURATE); SU-BND page | post | open |
OWENS-065 | 65 | Accurate | At the claimed airport — corroborated | CORROBORATED, AND ON THE GROUND. A trace we pulled and kept puts this airframe on the ground 0.0 km from KPVU on the claimed date. It places NOBODY aboard. | Owens sheet via Kanekoa audit (ACCURATE landing, counted twice) | post | open |
EXTRA-006 | — | Accurate | At the claimed airport — corroborated | CORROBORATED, AND ON THE GROUND. A trace we pulled and kept puts this airframe on the ground 1.3 km from KPVU on the claimed date. It places NOBODY aboard. | Owens Operation Mocking-Plane 17 Nov 2025; overlap page 20250910_UT_orem; SU-BND page | post | open |
OWENS-041 | 41 | Inaccurate | At the claimed airport — corroborated | CORROBORATED, AND ON THE GROUND. A trace we pulled and kept puts this airframe on the ground 1.2 km from KPVU on the claimed date. It places NOBODY aboard. | Owens sheet via Kanekoa audit (substance confirmed, origin corrected); Brick Suit time-zone correction; overlap pages 20250910_UT_orem and 20250910_DE_wilmington | post | open |
SITE-006 | — | Accurate | At the claimed airport — corroborated | CORROBORATED, AND ON THE GROUND. A trace we pulled and kept puts this airframe on the ground 1.2 km from KPVU on the claimed date. It places NOBODY aboard. | KMYU (10 a.m. courtyard listing); UVU pages on this site; Fox and ABC coverage 10 Sept 2025; Flightradar24 export; audit index 41 | — | open |
What the specifics show
Nine rows, five dates. Three of the five dates carry more than one row. OWENS-033 and OWENS-063 are the same 15 March 2025 Wichita claim entered twice. OWENS-035 and OWENS-065 are the same 23 May 2025 Provo landing entered twice. And three separate rows — EXTRA-006, OWENS-041 and SITE-006 — all sit on 10 September 2025, two of them describing the two aircraft on the Provo ramp and one describing the Provo-to-Wilmington leg. Nothing has been deleted to tidy the arithmetic, but a reader counting "nine times both Kirks were followed" is counting restatements.
The aircraft side is the strong half, and it is entirely Utah. Six of the nine rows are corroborated by raw ADS-B traces this investigation pulled and stored, and all six of those confirmations carry the on-ground flag: SITE-004, OWENS-035, OWENS-065, EXTRA-006, OWENS-041 and SITE-006 — every one of them at KPVU, Provo. The three rows position data does not corroborate are the three Wichita rows at KICT, and all three come back Not heard, which is an archive limit and not a refutation: an archive that served other aircraft those days holds no trace for this airframe, and parked-with-the-transponder-off, outside-receiver-coverage and a wrong claimed date all look the same from outside.
The two methods disagree on one row, and the disagreement is kept. OWENS-041 was called Inaccurate by the tracking-site audit, which corrected the claimed origin — the register records that the aircraft left the Provo ramp, not Paris. Measured against stored position data the same row comes back corroborated, on the ground 1.2 km from KPVU. Both verdicts are printed above and neither is folded into the other.
Where the list is weakest is the Kirk side. On five of the nine rows there is no Kirk or TPUSA appearance this site can independently source on the claimed day: OWENS-033 and OWENS-063 (the nearest sourced appearance is Knoxville, Tennessee, two days earlier), and OWENS-034, OWENS-035 and OWENS-065, which have no sourced appearance within three days anywhere at all. Only four of the nine land on a sourced same-day appearance — SITE-004 at the University of Utah, and the three 10 September rows at Utah Valley University.
Not one row places both Kirks in the same city. On SITE-004, OWENS-035 and OWENS-065 the sheet's Erika cell reads, in full, "Utah" — a state, not a location. On OWENS-033, OWENS-063 and OWENS-034 it reads "Kansas / Delaware", two states at once. On the three 10 September rows the sheet reads "Nebraska / Delaware" while Erika Kirk's own published account places her in Arizona; the register records that dispute rather than resolving it.
And the ordinary explanation is on the record too. The register's own counterargument on SITE-004 notes that Provo hosts a Duncan Aviation MRO which has held the Egyptian Air Force maintenance account since 1999, so a Provo arrival has an ordinary explanation, and it puts that aircraft's 2024 stay at about 84 days — a heavy-check length, not a surveillance orbit. On the 23 May 2025 rows the counterargument records a stay of 113 days on the Provo ramp, which it calls a maintenance-visit length.
What this list cannot tell you
- A trace locates an aircraft. It never places a person aboard. Six ground confirmations here put two airframes on the ramp at Provo. They say nothing whatever about who was in them, or whether anybody was.
- Erika Kirk's presence is established on zero of these nine rows — as it is on zero rows anywhere in this register. Her flight logs are reported erased, no itinerary has ever been published by her, by the compilers, or by anyone else, and the aircraft-side recovery does not produce one. Every "Erika: claimed" cell above is the spreadsheet's assertion.
- Charlie Kirk's presence is not established from flight data either. Where a sourced appearance is shown, it is sourced from event listings and press coverage catalogued in the speaking-events index — not from any aircraft record. No Kirk-side aircraft is on record on any of the nine rows.
- The three Not heard rows are an archive limit, not a deletion and not a refutation. An absence in an archive is not evidence of absence.
- A same-day match is not a same-hour match. Most of these rows carry no published event time, so "same day" cannot be narrowed to "before" or "after". The 10 September rows are the exception.
- On the count. The overview prints 9 rows across 5 dates for this cell and the register agrees, so there is no discrepancy here. Note that the audit-verdict column above is drawn from a line-by-line check that worked from the compilers' published sheet of 78 rows, while this register holds 85 — a difference that matters on other cuts pages more than on this one.
- Nobody here is accused of a crime. Every claim above is attributed to the compilers, to the auditor, or to the stored position data, and is reproduced so it can be checked.
Related
- The Following overview — the page whose table cell links here
- The overlap index — one page per claimed overlap, all 85
- The speaking-events catalog — the sourced Kirk and TPUSA appearances these rows are tested against
- SU-BTT — the Falcon 7X named on six of these rows
- SU-BND — the Gulfstream named on five of these rows
- The nine rows claiming Charlie Kirk without Erika — the other half of the Charlie count
- Every row that involves Charlie Kirk at all — these nine plus those nine
- The rows where Erika Kirk's presence is actually established — the empty list that governs every row above
- The ten ground-position confirmations — six of them are on this page
Flight-record pages for what is on this page
This investigation keeps one page per airport and one page per recorded ground contact, built directly from the recovered ADS-B traces. These are the ones this page touches.
Airports named on this page:
- KPVU — Provo Municipal Airport, Provo, UT — 135 recorded ground visits, 13 tracked aircraft
- KSLC — Salt Lake City International Airport, Salt Lake City, UT — 33 recorded ground visits, 7 tracked aircraft
- KILG — Wilmington Airport / New Castle Airport, Wilmington, DE — 28 recorded ground visits, 3 tracked aircraft
- KMOT — Minot International Airport, Minot, ND — 2 recorded ground visits, 2 tracked aircraft
- KICT — Wichita Dwight D. Eisenhower National Airport, Wichita, KS — 1 recorded ground visit, 1 tracked aircraft
Aircraft named on this page:
- SU-BND — full recovered movement record, every airport and every leg
- SU-BTT — full recovered movement record, every airport and every leg
The two indexes:
- Every airport in this investigation — 290 fields, each with its complete recovered ground-visit and flight-leg record
- Every interesting date, all aircraft — 147 ground contacts near a sourced event, across 110 pages
- Investigating Deleted Flights — how the data was recovered, how much of it we hold, and where it is still missing