10 September 2025 — Orem, Utah
The pairing, in one sentence
Charlie Kirk was killed at Utah Valley University in Orem at 12:23:30 PM MDT on 10 September 2025. SU-BTT had been parked at Provo Municipal Airport — seven miles from the courtyard — for six days and departed that morning, and SU-BND had been parked on the same ramp for 110 days and switched its transponder on that day without ever taking off.
This is the only date in the entire record that is a same-day, same-airport overlap by any definition — including the sceptics'. Liz Wheeler, reducing the whole 70-plus tally to what survives strict criteria, arrives at one: this one.
The Kirk / TPUSA side
| Field | Value |
|---|---|
| Date | 10 September 2025 — event date, extensively documented |
| Who | Charlie Kirk |
| Event | The American Comeback Tour, first stop of a fifteen-date fall tour announced for 10 Sept – 29 Oct |
| Venue | Utah Valley University, Sorensen Center courtyard, Orem, Utah |
| Time | Event announced for ~10:00 MDT; Kirk was shot at 12:23:30 PM MDT |
| Distance to Provo Municipal (KPVU) | ~7 miles |
| Source | KMYU (10 a.m. courtyard listing); UVU pages on this site; Fox and ABC coverage, 10 Sept 2025 |
| Speaking-event page | 2025-09-10 — Orem |
| Next scheduled stop | Colorado State, 18 September |
Erika Kirk's presence is disputed. One compilation spreadsheet places her in "Nebraska/Delaware" for TPUSA media appearances that day; she has said she stayed home in Arizona with her mother. Neither version is independently documented. The Delaware half of that claim has its own page — 10 September 2025 — Wilmington.
Tyler Robinson is charged in this killing. He has not been convicted, and nothing on this page asserts otherwise.
The foreign side — two aircraft, both at Provo
| Aircraft | Type | Hex | Arrived Provo | Entered the US via | Position on 10 Sept | Departed |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| SU-BTT | Falcon 7X | 0101D3 | 4 Sept 2025, 12:46 pm | Paris-Le Bourget → Minot, ND (KMOT), landing 11:03 am, departing ~11:45 am | Departs Provo. Time disputed — see below | 10 Sept 2025 → Wilmington (KILG) |
| SU-BND | Gulfstream 4SP | 01003E | 23 May 2025, 2:38 pm | Paris → Goose Bay → Minot | On the ground. Transponder reported active. No takeoff. | 13 Sept 2025, 12:57 pm → Goose Bay → Paris → Cairo |
From 23 May to 13 September 2025 — 113 continuous days — a foreign-registered jet was parked at this field. Every other arrival in that period, SU-BTT's September stay included, happened at an airport where SU-BND was already sitting.
In those 113 days SU-BND flew exactly twice, both Provo→Provo round-robins: one on 10 June (no duration logged) and one on 5 September lasting 1 hour 8 minutes — five days before the assassination. The 5 September sortie is the single flight in this record that nobody has adequately explained.
The counter to that, stated in the same breath: SU-BGM flew the identical signature on 10 April 2025 — a 55-minute Provo→Provo round-robin. Two Egyptian jets, five months apart, each flying exactly one closed loop out of Provo, is the profile of a post-maintenance functional check flight, which is what an aircraft does after a heavy inspection before release. If the September loop is anomalous, consistency requires treating the April one the same way — and an April closed loop five months early fits no narrative about the assassination.
The SU-BTT departure time is disputed three ways, and they cannot all be true
This is the most contested fact in the whole investigation and it is set out here as a dispute, not reconciled.
| Version | Claim | Source | What it would mean |
|---|---|---|---|
| (a) Wheels-up ~07:08–07:14 MT | SU-BTT departed Provo for Wilmington roughly five hours before the shot | The Flightradar24 export compiled by trackers; the Provo page records 07:14 am | The aircraft was airborne and eastbound long before anything happened |
| (b) The "nuclear flight logs" | Power-up at 9:05 am, the track goes dark, reactivates 17 minutes after the shot, idles until 1:29 pm | Candace Owens's broadcast | The aircraft was still on the ground during the shooting with its track suppressed |
| (c) It never left Provo at all | Launched instead from Dugway Proving Ground's Michael Army Airfield with the transponder off until clear of restricted airspace R-6404 | @ProjectConstitu / @nihilox | A different airport, a deliberate track gap, and a military field |
A fourth reading, from @troofevades, logs the takeoff at ~13:14 UTC and the landing at ~16:52 UTC. Part of the spread between these versions is a UTC-versus-local conversion error that has circulated uncorrected — 13:08 UTC is 07:08 MDT, and the same instant has been reported as both.
This page does not pick a winner. The versions are irreconcilable, they come from named sources, and the disagreement is itself the finding. The full treatment is on the Candace Owens broadcasts page and the X discussions page.
SU-BND's transponder
Reported by @I_Am_JohnCullen via @diddlezs: the transponder came on roughly 21 minutes before the shot and was powered down about an hour after. The aircraft did not take off.
A transponder cycling on a parked aircraft has ordinary causes — avionics power-up, a maintenance check, ground testing. It also has no published explanation for this date. Both statements are true and both belong here.
The overlap table
| Date | Foreign tail | Foreign movement + time | Kirk side + time | Gap | Distance | Arrived from | Departed to | Transponder | Confidence |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 10 Sep 2025 | SU-BTT | Departs Provo, 07:14 am (disputed — see the three versions above) | Kirk shot at UVU, 12:23:30 PM MDT | Same day, ~5 h before (on version (a)) | ~7 mi | Paris-Le Bourget → Minot, arrived Provo 4 Sept 12:46 pm | Wilmington (KILG) | on — track gap disputed | Audited accurate — origin corrected from "Paris" to Provo |
| 10 Sep 2025 | SU-BND | On the ground. Transponder active ~21 min before the shot, powered down ~1 h after. No takeoff. | Same | Same day, same field | ~7 mi | Paris → Goose Bay → Minot, arrived 23 May 2:38 pm | Goose Bay, 13 Sept 12:57 pm | on, stationary | Reported (Cullen via @diddlezs); the stay itself is audited |
| 4 Sep 2025 | SU-BTT | Arrives Provo 12:46 pm | UVU event scheduled 10 Sept | 6 days before — outside this directory's one-day rule | ~7 mi | Minot (11:03 am) | — | on | Audited accurate (index 40) |
| 5 Sep 2025 | SU-BND | Provo→Provo, 1 h 08 m | Kirk in Seoul, South Korea, 5–6 Sept | Different continent | — | — | — | on | Unexplained sortie, no pairing |
What else was at Provo that week
Recorded because it is publishable and because it is not aircraft data, and it should not be conflated with it:
- The Provo airport badge access list was updated on 9/11/25 — the day after.
- Counter-UAS equipment was reportedly tested at Provo airport between 4 and 10 September.
- Reportedly four to six contractors carrying claimed "US Department of Defense Liaison" badges were dropped off and not flown back out.
These are reported claims from researchers, not records this site holds. No badge list, no test log, and no contract has been obtained. They are on the page because withholding a publishable claim is not the same as verifying it.
The counterargument
- John Cullen attributes the entire September stay to scheduled Duncan Aviation Falcon maintenance, under a service relationship he cites back to 1999 — the same relationship documented at Lincoln in a 2015 Duncan Aviation press release.
- Both aircraft were already there. Neither flew in for the event. SU-BND had been on that ramp for 110 days by 10 September; SU-BTT arrived six days early. Wheeler's reduction is exactly this: the one same-day, same-airport row is a row where the jets were parked before anyone scheduled anything.
- An aircraft departing five hours before the shot is not overwatch. On version (a), SU-BTT was over the Midwest when it happened.
- Neither Kirk is documented at Provo at any point. Charlie Kirk was in Seoul on 5–6 September; Erika Kirk reportedly stayed in Arizona. The aircraft were at an airport near an event, not near a person.
- ADS-B has holes, and they cut both ways. A track gap is not proof of a covert leg, and a clean track is not proof of innocent intent.
What we do not know
- Which of the three departure versions is correct. This is settleable by anyone with raw archive access and has not been settled publicly.
- Whether SU-BTT's track was suppressed or simply misread. No raw ADS-B export has been published alongside the claims.
- Why SU-BND's transponder cycled, and why the aircraft never moved.
- Who was aboard SU-BTT's outbound leg. Candace Owens claims four people, one using the name "Walid Mahmoud" — an unverified online claim about a living person, and no wrongdoing is established by it.
- Whether Michael Army Airfield at Dugway has any record for this date. Nobody has requested it.
- Where Erika Kirk actually was. Her flight logs are reported erased — see Erika flight logs erased.
- This page is the 18-month run-up thread, not the day-of timeline. The minute-by-minute of 10 September is Sept10 Flight Timeline's job, and the N1098L, N888KG and drone threads are separate claims about separate aircraft — link across, never blend.
What people posted on X about this overlap
A dedicated search of X for this overlap — 2025-09-10, Provo then Wilmington, SU-BTT, Charlie Kirk, Erika Kirk, Egyptian-registered jets, SU-BTT, SU-BND. Posts that name this pairing are quoted in full, with a link back to the post. Unsubstantiated claims, conspiracy theories, corrections, and mockery are all kept. A post being quoted is not a finding by this site. Living people named in the posts are quoted as speakers, not as perpetrators. Tyler Robinson is charged, not convicted. The compressed discussion of the 73/72/70/68/77/1 count dispute is on X discussions.
This page is overlap OWENS-041, OWENS-040, EXTRA-006.
Posts that name this date, this city, or this pairing
@RealCandaceO (Candace Owens), 12 October 2025, 1977168281456066960
🚨BREAKING NEWS!🚨 On September 10th, after Charlie's assasination, an Egyptian Air Force plane flew out of Provo, Utah. Tail number: SU-BTT
It's first trip to America EVER was made on July 20t—to an army base in Nebraska.
Tyler Robinson must have had some powerful friends!
First national-stage post of SU-BTT. Said after. 8,628 likes / ~1.97M views at capture. Tyler Robinson is charged, not convicted.
@RealCandaceO (Candace Owens), 12 October 2025, 1977169835617394794
With all we have crowdsourced, it looks like a decision to murder Charlie Kirk in Utah was made around July 18th. A military meeting with foreign leaders took place on July 20th on U.S soil.
The plane flew into Provo direct from France on September 4th and stayed until just after Charlie was assassinated— flying out to Wilmington on that day.
The plane returned home to Egypt the following day on September 11th.
The July 20 meeting claim and the Sept 4 Provo arrival claim originate in this follow-up. Still said after on the departure.
@Brick_Suit, 12 October 2025, 1977228792868618560
Candace, you said this plane flew out of Provo UT, AFTER the assassination.
Except the plane flew out of Provo at 13:08UTC.
13:08UTC = 7:08AM MDT
This means the plane flew out of Provo on 9/10 shortly after 7 in the morning. This was well BEFORE the assassination took place.
The UTC-to-MDT correction. Three photos of the track attached. ~2.2M views at capture.
@RealCandaceO (Candace Owens), 12 October 2025, 1977362342338818240
Okay! I stand corrected on the departure time of the Egyptian Air Force plane. It left just BEFORE Charlie was assassinated, not AFTER on 9/10. So, still completely abnormal and seems pretty obviously related to Charlie's assassination given the plane's past flight activity.
Quote-tweet of Brick Suit. The 7:08 AM MT wheels-up time in the file starts here.
@RealCandaceO (Candace Owens), 12 October 2025, 1977399788493541602
Given the artificial boost of the Snopes-like debunking of the Egyptian military flight, it is CLEAR they are panicked about its discovery.
Who were the people dropped off when the flight arrived into Provo? How many people were on the manifest for its return flight on 9/10?
The contractors-left-behind claim in question form. No manifest has been published.
@RealCandaceO (Candace Owens), 19 November 2025, 1991258315339264326
Today on the show:
Why did the Egyptian Plane land in Delaware and stay the night on the 9/10?
The answer may be much crazier than we think.
Who called the hit on Charlie Kirk?
The Wilmington overnight as a standalone question.
@RealCandaceO (Candace Owens), 21 November 2025, 1991680682603520403
Looks like another round of a desperate and fake debunking regarding the Egyptian planes!
These federally-sponsored trends are as fun as they are predictable now :-)
And I can tell you guys with absolute certainty that today I learned the Federal government is in a panic about the mention of their joint DHS, FBI, and DEA office at 920 N King. The tip proved absolutely solid and I was informed so.
It is now a fact that a foreign dignitary was picked up after arriving from Provo the morning of Charlie's assassination on the Egyptian plane, and then transferred to 920 King for some joint operation.
And yes, despite the massive office space, there is NOTHING else in that building except a law firm (and a place to eat).
Reported dignitary-transfer story. No passenger identity is established. 920 North King Street / One Rodney Square, Wilmington.
@ProjectConstitu (Project Constitution), 16 August 2026, 2089012149041463592
‼️BOMBSHELL: The SAME Egyptian Presidential Plane Candace Owens Flagged in Provo the DAY Charlie Kirk was Assassinated Was Sitting On The Tarmac NEXT TO AIR FORCE ONE in Sharm El-Sheikh On Oct 13th.
On October 13, 2025, during the Gaza peace summit, Fox News live coverage shows Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi's motorcade pulling up as Air Force One lands. Right there on the tarmac? SU-BTT. This is the exact tail number Candace exposed.
Let's recap the receipts she already dropped:
• SU-BTT (the "yellow" Egyptian Falcon) landed in Provo on September 4, 2025 — six days before Charlie was killed • It carried a group of Egyptian military contractors
• Those contractors deplaned in Provo • The plane then left for Wilmington, Delaware on the morning of September 10 with only four people on board — the contractors were gone • Those same contractors got rental cars from Duncan Aviation at the Provo FBO
Candace was mocked for "time zone mistakes." She was told it was "just maintenance."
Now we have live Fox News footage from the Egyptian presidential summit showing SU-BTT parked next to Air Force One while el-Sisi greets Trump.
This is not a random charter. This is Egyptian presidential fleet.
13,820 likes / 1.75M views at capture. The Sharm el-Sheikh tarmac claim, the contractors/rental-car claim, and the presidential-fleet claim, in one post. Unverified as to who deplaned.
@ProjectConstitu (Project Constitution), 16 August 2026, 2089093599581385152
there were 2 of them. SU-BTT was the one that left and went to wilmington before Charlie arrived with the Foreign Dignitary. SU-BND was the one that was on the tarmac all day transponding and was what we believe to be the command center for the black op.
Unsubstantiated command-center reading of SU-BND's transponder. Recorded because it is what people posted about this pairing.
@RealGeorgeWebb1 (George Webb), 18 August 2026, 2089844868969640281
Are we sure Egyptian plane SU-BTT that dropped of military contractors in Provo on Sept 4th before Charlie Kirk's murder didn't have diplomatic immunity? Hmmm Al-Sisi plane, SU-BTT, is next to Air Force One on the tarmac a month later on October 13th. How could Joe Kent not have known about this plane in Provo as head of NCTC?
Diplomatic-immunity question plus NCTC. No public record answers it. Living officials are named as the people the poster asked about, not as accused.
@truthache68, 18 August 2026, 2089776658459119821
🚨 Same tail number.
Same Egyptian presidential jet.
✅ SU-BTT was on the ground in Provo six days before Charlie Kirk was killed.
✅ Then it was sitting next to Air Force One in Sharm El-Sheikh on Oct 13.
Candace flagged it.
The flight data is public.
The summit footage is public.
Coincidence or not—the plane is real. The timeline is real.
@johnmcvicar16, 17 August 2026, 2089409628052623742
Yesterday I posted October 13, Gaza Peace Summit Fox News clip, showing Egyptian President el-Sisi Airplane, License plate# SU-BTT, sitting on the tarmac right next to Air Force One, in Egypt. We Know SU-BTT has been flying around Our Country, up to NO GOOD, SECRET Dealings. Today we're talking about Another Egyptian Pres el-Sisi Airplane, License plate# SU-BTU=el-Sisi's Personal Jet. el-Sisi's Personal Jet was parked at Dunkin Aviation, at Provo Utah Airport, 4 miles away from Utah Valley Univ. on the day Charlie Kirk was Assassinated. Satellite Imagery showed that SU-BTU's Door was open, and the Airplanes' Stairs were down. Up-To-No-GOOD SU-BTU's transponder was being flipped on and off all day — including, at the EXACT timeframes when Andrew Kolvet's plane and Erika Kirk's plane arrived, at Provo Utah Airport.
Who was on SU-BTU's Plane?? Was SU-BTU Plane, one of the Get-Away Vehicles for the Foreign military Kill-Squad???
A different tail (SU-BTU) mixed into 10 September. Unsubstantiated kill-squad / get-away-vehicle reading. Duncan Aviation, not Dunkin. Kept because the query returned it against this date.
@BelacYellat, 26 November 2025, 1993724433513730540
Egyptian Air Force plane SU-BTT overlapped Charlie & Erika's exact locations 73 times since 2022 and was on the ground in Provo the day of the hit. Why has the FBI never mentioned it?
Treats 73 as settled and asks why the FBI has not spoken to it.
@gilfishdad, 31 October 2025, 1984050935723913402
Why do we allow "Egyptian Military Contractors" to do "Stuff" in the USA? ....
The Plane: What We KnowThe aircraft in question is a military transport jet with tail number SU-BTT, operated by the Egyptian Air Force (EAF). Flight tracking data confirms:Arrival: July 20, 2025, marking its first-ever trip to the U.S., landing initially at an Army base in Nebraska before heading to Provo Municipal Airport (PVU) on September 4, 2025.
Activity in Utah: It reportedly dropped off a small group—estimates vary from 4 to 6 individuals described as "military subcontractors" or contractors—before sitting idle.
Departure: September 10, 2025, at 7:00 a.m. local time (13:00 UTC), hours before Kirk's 1:00 p.m. shooting. Crucially, the return flight's manifest allegedly lacked those same passengers, who remained stateside.
Relays Owens's contractor numbers. No manifest has been published. SU-BTT is a Falcon 7X, not a military transport.
@TheIntelFrog, 17 August 2026, 2089181089805848773
If I listed everything she got wrong, this post would rival War & Peace so let's just address one of her wild claims.
SU-BND arrived into Provo and taxied to Duncan Aviation, a major aviation maintenance provider. Its first stop in the country was at Minot AFB, ND for clearance by US Customs. While at Duncan, it went on one flight on September 5th. The profile is consistent with a maintenance test flight. There isn't a single analyst who would call this any of the things claimed. The flight profile is consistent with a maintenance test flight.
If you can't get basic facts right, anything that follows is highly suspect.
The maintenance-test-flight counter to the 5 September Provo→Provo loop. Minot is a civilian international (KMOT), not Minot AFB — a common mix-up.
Posts that name this city, this tail, or this window
These posts are about the same airport, the same aircraft, or the same week — not always this exact spreadsheet cell. They are here because a reader of this row will hit them.
@KanekoaTheGreat, 15 December 2025, 2000701268806062358
BREAKING: 66% of Candace Owens' Egyptian planes' location claims are wrong.
60% are on the wrong continent.
I rebuilt her spreadsheet. I purchased FlightRadar24 data. I verified it using $950 FlightAware logs.
Here's the full breakdown:
The line-by-line audit this directory's verdicts are taken from. 6,593 likes / 1.01M views at capture. YouTube: https://youtu.be/r3D9qOurqnM
How this row sits in the 73-count argument
This row is one cell of the spreadsheet Candace Owens displayed on 17 November 2025 ("Operation Mocking-Plane"). The number that travels — 73, 72, 70+, 68/29, 77, or 1 — is argued on X as a total, almost never as this date. The posts that produced those totals:
@BasedSamParker (Sam Parker), 17 November 2025, 1990567019851464866
BREAKING: 73 of the flights of the Egyptian planes coincide with Erika Kirk travel locations. In the case of the assassination, it was there BEFORE Erika got there. What's going on?!
The 73-of-the-flights wording, the night of Operation Mocking-Plane. Quote-tweet of @Ryanmatta.
@itsmorganariel (Morgan Ariel), 17 November 2025, 1990557512043803109
EXPLOSIVE!
The Egyptian military plane was tracking Erika Kirk NOT Charlie Kirk!
Between 2022 and September of 2025, both the blue plane and yellow plane showed 68 overlaps with Erika Kirk's location, including trips she took outside of the country.
Out of those 68 instances, 29 of them included Charlie.
The 68/29 split. Not reconciled with 73/~23. 2,771 likes / 132k views at capture.
@JustTheTweets17 (Trisha Hope), 18 November 2025, 1990785423623262490
They need you to believe she is crazy, they are desperate for you to believe that.
72 times those exact planes followed Erika Kirk, not a plane like it, those 2 planes. That is statistically near impossible without intent.
The 72-count. 12,404 likes / 572k views at capture.
The audit note on this cell
Sheet verdict on this row: inaccurate. Source of the audit: @KanekoaTheGreat, 15 December 2025.
Sheet origin is wrong (Paris/Lincoln vs Provo). Wheels-up ~7:08 AM MDT / 13:08 UTC per Brick Suit, hours BEFORE the shot — Owens first said AFTER, then corrected. Liz Wheeler's one same-day same-airport remainder. Erika has said she stayed home in Arizona; the sheet puts her in Nebraska/Delaware. SU-BND transponder on, no takeoff. Three irreconcilable departure clocks.
Compiler note: The only same-day same-airport row Wheeler will grant. Audit marks the ROW inaccurate because of the origin string, while confirming the Provo→Wilmington→Cairo substance.
More of the same discussion, grouped by research topic rather than by date, is on X discussions of the following planes and Candace Owens broadcasts.
Links
- Overlap dates index · Following overview
- 10 September 2025 — Wilmington, Delaware — where SU-BTT went that evening
- Provo (KPVU) location page · Minot (KMOT)
- Candace Owens broadcasts · X discussions · Press coverage
- Speaking event: 2025-09-10 Orem
- Tail numbers: SU-BTT · SU-BND · SU-BGM
- Sept 10 flight timeline · Planes Following Charlie or Erika
- Erika flight logs erased · Proof Intel Services