Shooting Time Disputes (12:23 vs 12:27 MDT)
The most contested minute on September 10, 2025 is when the fatal shot occurred at Utah Valley University. Public sources cluster around 12:23 PM MDT or 12:27 PM MDT, with dispatch logs and time-of-death windows cited differently. This page maps the dispute without picking a single official verdict beyond what each source type claims.
Timestamps in circulation
| Time (MDT) | How it appears in project sources |
|---|---|
| ~12:23 PM | September 10, 2025, Timeline Overview — shot time from police-audio timestamps and many citizen compilations; used in analysis docs (e.g., 10-page write-up summaries) |
| 12:26 PM | First police report / dispatch log in Sept_10_2025 and overview summaries |
| ~12:27 PM | Some media response timelines and suspect-profile summaries (e.g., trash timeline_compilation, tyler_robinson stubs) — "Kirk shot in throat area" |
| 12:23–12:27 window | Time-of-death range noted on Sept_10_2025 when sources disagree on the precise impact second |
Why the four-minute spread matters
Citizen investigators argue that synchronized audio, scanner feeds, and video anchor the shot closer to 12:23, while some mainstream or early media summaries rounded or reported 12:27. A few compilations also cite 8:12 PM as when Kirk was pronounced dead at the scene (citizen examination doc) — a separate question from time of impact.
Discrepancies affect:
- Whether roof-jumping timeline accounts are physically plausible in the same minute as the shot
- How N1098L low passes (claimed ~11:47 AM pre-shot; ~12:24–12:48 PM post-shot on Sept_10_2025) align with impact time
- Witness testimony consistency across interviews
Evidence types behind each time
- 12:23 anchor: Police-radio compilations posted by journalists and commentators; multi-angle sync projects on X/YouTube (labeled claims on Sept_10_2025).
- 12:27 anchor: Secondary media timelines without always citing primary audio timecodes.
- 12:26 anchor: Dispatch "first report" time — not identical to time of injury, but often quoted in news briefings.
What would resolve the dispute
Trash-source Laws blocks (merged from former 12_23 and 12_27 stubs) point to records not fully public:
- Unedited UVU camera timestamps synchronized with raw 911 / dispatch logs
- Sealed forensic and autopsy timeline entries
- Carbyne 911 system logs and cell-tower movement data for the accused
Laws (Charlie Kirk)
- The unedited UVU camera timestamps and the raw 911 and dispatch call logs and the sealed forensic and autopsy timeline and the police dispatch and Carbyne 911 system logs and cell-tower data fixing the suspect's exact movements are things that the Charlie Kirk Investigation Laws may result in powerful truths coming out that aren't out yet.