"They Are Going to Kill Me" Text (September 9, 2025, Claims)
One alleged message, sent the day before the shooting, has become the most-cited pre-death artifact in the case: Charlie Kirk reportedly telling confidants "they are going to kill me." This page is a chronology of that claim — what Kirk did publicly on September 8 and 9, when each alleged recipient and each wording variant entered the public record, who disputes the messages exist at all, and what would authenticate them. No court has authenticated these messages, and no court has found that any living person named in connection with them caused Kirk's death.
The Timeline
The months before
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April 3, 2025 — Kirk posts publicly against a new Middle East war, warning that "the war drums are beating again in DC" — the earliest widely-cited marker of the friction that motive researchers point to. Context on Charlie–Israel Friction and Reported Quotes and Warnings.
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Summer 2025 — Kirk pushes on the Epstein files and declines to cancel Tucker Carlson, both of which appear in donor-conflict accounts — the Epstein files push and Tucker Carlson and Israel.
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Aug 2025 (reported) — A meeting in the Hamptons is described by researchers as a donor-pressure event. The date is uncertain in the source material — some accounts place it in early August, others tie the confrontation to September 9 — the Hamptons intervention meeting and Israel and the Hamptons.
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Before Sept 9 (leaked, later confirmed by TPUSA) — A WhatsApp chat with donors in which Kirk writes that he has "just lost another huge Jewish donor" over refusing to cancel Carlson, that "Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes," and that this is "leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause." TPUSA has publicly confirmed this chat, which is what distinguishes it from the "kill me" messages — Leaked Kirk Texts and Israel Donors and Motive.
September 9, 2025 — the day itself
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Sept 9 (reported) — A confrontation described as an "intervention" in which Kirk is challenged by pro-Israel figures. Named attendees in citizen compilations include Rabbi Pesach Wolicki, Josh Hammer, Seth Dillon, Bill Ackman and Natasha Hausdorff. Attendance lists differ between retellings and none of the named attendees has been accused in any court of anything — the September 9 high-pressure meeting and Political Pressure and Meetings 2025.
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Sept 9 — publicly verifiable — Kirk appears on Ben Shapiro's show and voices sharper criticism of Israeli policy to Shapiro directly. This is the one anchor of the day that requires no private sourcing — 2025 Context Timeline and Charlie's Quotes on Israel.
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Sept 9, during or after the meeting (claim) — The alleged text. The master investigation file records it as: "During this combative meeting, Kirk reportedly texted others saying, 'THEY ARE GOING TO KILL ME.'" The timing is placed inside or immediately after the confrontation in most retellings, but no retelling gives a clock time.
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Sept 9 (claimed sequence — citizen collage) — Timelines such as @Villgecrazylady (Dec 2025) place an after-Zoom text to Andrew Kolvet: "they are going to kill me," distinct from the TPUSA-confirmed donor WhatsApp thread of the prior days. Those posts clarify that Kolvet is not alleged to have been on the Zoom with Wolicki/Hammer — only to have received a text afterward — a distinction that answers meeting-page debunks aimed at a different claim.
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Sept 9 (Flood variant) — Viral posts (e.g. @TheSCIF, @AdameMedia, Owens ecosystem) claim Charlie also texted security lead Dan Flood wording such as "They are going to kill me tomorrow" (KM-10) or related "executed tomorrow" (KM-10) language. No public screenshot or Flood confirmation has been produced in the posts reviewed. Flood has not been charged with anything.
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Sept 10, 12:23 PM MDT — Kirk is shot at UVU, roughly 24 hours after the alleged messages — September 10, 2025 and the minute-by-minute reconstruction.
How the claim entered and grew in the record
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Weeks after the shooting — Candace Owens publishes the donor WhatsApp texts, which had been dismissed as a hoax until she released them. That publication is what made subsequent private-message claims credible to a large audience — Candace Owens' podcast coverage and the Candace Owens timeline.
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On Myron Gaines' podcast and in later interviews (claim) — Owens reportedly states that a TPUSA staffer possessed a text from Kirk the day before he died reading "they are going to kill me," (KM-07) and that in additional September 9 communications with three people he said "I think they're going to kill me." (KM-09)
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Dec 9, 2025 — Russell Brand amplification — @rustyrockets posts a large-audience clip of Owens restating that people at Turning Point received night-before texts: "They are going to kill me" — a carry of the claim beyond Owens's core audience.
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Dec 12, 2025 — public-entry chain — Amplifiers including @EvanAKilgore (~13k likes on the main post) and @TheSCIF circulate that Owens said Kolvet told her off the record about a night-before text, and that she went public after Erika Kirk publicly implied no such messages existed. Dual-recipient packaging (Kolvet and Flood) spreads the same day via @itsmorganariel and @AdameMedia.
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Aggregation phase — Multiple outlets including Primetimer, Sportskeeda and Times of India repeat the quote, at which point it circulates far beyond its original sourcing — Mainstream vs Alternative Media.
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Variant: "They will kill me" (KM-08) — Attributed to a message said to have been sent to a recipient named Andrew. Some threads on X, including @AdameMedia, identify that recipient as Andrew Kolvet after a September 9 Zoom. Kolvet has not been accused in any court of anything.
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Variant: "I'm worried that Israel is going to kill me" (KM-06) — Circulated in second-hand retellings.
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Variant: "They will kill me if I break away from being pro-Israel" (KM-03) — Attributed to second-hand sources including Harrison Smith segments and unnamed friends — Political Pressure and Meetings 2025.
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Variant: "executed tomorrow" (KM-10) / "kill me tomorrow" (KM-10) language — Attributed in the master file and Dec 2025 viral posts to messages involving Dan Flood and security staff. Flood has not been accused in any court of anything.
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Variant: "They want me dead" (KM-05) (Turek — dating disputed) — A thread attributed to Frank Turek describing a warning plus increased security, circulated by @Villgecrazylady among others. At least one 2026 rebuttal asserts Turek's exchange of that kind was about six months earlier, not September 9 — keep the viral attribution and the dating pushback together.
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Denial — Erika Kirk as primary public denier — Circulating interview clips quote Erika Kirk saying she has Charlie's cell phone and that he was not messaging people the day before that he would be murdered / that someone would kill him (wording variants: "I'm gonna be murdered," "someone is going to kill me," "they're going to kill me"). Earlier page summaries referred only to an unnamed "associate"; the denial speaker in widely shared clips is Erika. TPUSA has confirmed the donor texts but has not confirmed this specific message, and the alleged September 9 "kill me" messages have not been released or independently verified.
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Counter-reword claim (2026 commentary) — Some posters (e.g. @_Alisha_114 threads) claim Brian Harpole and Andrew Kolvet later acknowledged a fearful text but said the wording was "the left is going to kill me," while Owens insists the reported wording was "they/they're." Without released threads, three versions remain unauthenticated: Owens's they/they're; the "left" reword; and total denial. Harpole's own litigation against Owens is tracked separately at Brian Harpole v. Candace Owens, and bears on how each side's statements should be weighed.
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Counterweight reading — Even taken at face value, the messages may be private hyperbole under extreme donor stress rather than a specific warning about a specific plot. The official case charges no text recipient with anything.
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Ongoing — Phone forensics that could settle it are contested territory in the litigation — Phone Extraction and Phone Surveillance Claims. Still missing for authentication: full thread screenshots with headers, carrier records for September 9, forensic extraction of the handset Erika says she holds, and any sworn statement from a named recipient.
Pre-event warning signs are also why former NCTC director Joe Kent says the case warranted a deeper federal look: he has cited on the record the online posts predicting Kirk would die that day as a strong indication that "more than likely there's something else at play" — the kind of lead he says his center was ordered to stop pursuing.
Who Said What (Attributed)
| Claimed recipient or channel | Claimed content (paraphrase) | Status / first public wave |
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| A TPUSA staffer (unnamed) | "They are going to kill me" | Candace Owens (Myron Gaines + later); message not released |
| Three unnamed people, Sept 9 | "I think they're going to kill me" (KM-09) | Candace Owens' account; not released |
| Andrew Kolvet | "They will kill me" (KM-08) / "they are going to kill me" (KM-07) after Zoom | Owens off-record→public Dec 12 2025 wave; Kolvet not on Zoom per @Villgecrazylady; no public confirmation by Kolvet |
| Dan Flood / security | "Kill me tomorrow" / "executed tomorrow" (KM-10) variants | Dec 2025 dual-recipient packaging; no Flood confirmation; not released |
| Frank Turek | "They want me dead," (KM-05) plus a security increase | Viral attribution; 2026 rebuttal says ~6 months earlier, not Sept 9 |
| Harpole / Kolvet (reword claim) | "The left is going to kill me" | 2026 commentary claiming confirm-but-reword; no screenshots authenticated |
| Erika Kirk holding the phone | The messages never happened | Primary public denial; also unverified without forensics |
Conflicts and Disputed Points
| Point | Version A | Version B | Who asserts |
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| Do the messages exist | Yes — a staffer had one, and three people received variants; Owens says Kolvet told her off the record | No — Erika Kirk: "I have his cell phone. It never happened." | Candace Owens (Dec 2025 public wave) vs Erika Kirk denial clips |
| Exact wording | "They are going to kill me" / "they're" | "The left is going to kill me" (Harpole/Kolvet reword claim) / "I think…" / "kill me tomorrow" (KM-10) / "They want me dead" (KM-05) | Different retellings; no two agree exactly; no authenticated screenshots |
| Recipient | Andrew (reported as Andrew Kolvet) after Zoom — not on Zoom | Dan Flood, Frank Turek (dating disputed), unnamed staffer, three unnamed people | Each attribution has a different source chain |
| Trigger | The September 9 confrontation | Accumulated donor pressure over months | High-pressure meeting vs donor motive |
| Meaning | A specific warning about a specific threat | Private hyperbole under stress | Both readings are live; neither is established |
| Corroboration | TPUSA confirmed the donor texts, so these are plausible | TPUSA has pointedly not confirmed these | The distinction is the strongest fact on this page |
| Turek dating | Viral posts place a Turek "want me dead" (KM-05) exchange on/near Sept 9 | 2026 pushback: that exchange was ~six months earlier | Circulated attribution vs rebuttal posts |
Open Questions
- Does the full unredacted thread exist in any forensic extraction of Kirk's phone, and who holds that device now?
- Who are the three people Owens says received September 9 messages, and will any of them speak on the record?
- What do carrier records show for outbound messages from Kirk's number on September 9?
- Has any named alleged recipient confirmed or denied receiving such a message in a sworn or on-the-record statement?
- Why has TPUSA confirmed the donor WhatsApp chat but not these messages?
- Do the messages, if authenticated, name anyone, or are they generic?
Laws (Charlie Kirk)
The full unredacted text thread and the complete recipient list, the carrier records authenticating send times and originating device, the forensic extraction of Kirk's phone, and any preserved copies held by TPUSA staff or security personnel are things that the Charlie Kirk Investigation Laws may result in powerful truths coming out that aren't out yet.
Best understanding of when he said this
Best understanding: SEPT 9 during/after the combative meeting. Domain SEPT 8–10 with sub-day bars.
Date range (working model): Domain: SEPT 8–10 2025 · 6 bars/day · Combative meeting / day-before texts
The chart below is not a government finding. Bar height is relative likelihood from public claims (X posts, interviews, investigation indexes, master-file notes). Domain is trimmed to where likelihood is non-trivial — no multi-week empty stretch.
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