Witness Testimony & Timeline Discrepancies
Public discussion of the UVU shooting repeatedly returns to conflicting witness accounts, media summaries, and citizen reconstructions — especially around shot time, suspect movement, and what investigators did with bystander video. This page lists recurring discrepancy themes; it does not allege that any specific witness committed perjury.
Recurring discrepancy categories
1. Shot and death times
- 12:23 vs 12:27 PM MDT — see Shooting Time Disputes.
- Time-of-death window reported as 12:23–12:27 on Sept_10_2025 when sources disagree on the impact second.
2. Suspect movement after the shot
- Dairy Queen sighting (Orem): Sept_10_2025 cites social-media claims of a Robinson sighting variously annotated 12:38 PM or 6:38 PM MDT from single photographs — not fully adjudicated publicly.
- Roof egress vs camera trail: Roof Jumping Timeline vs morning camera sightings on Tyler on Surveillance Cameras.
3. Early media vs later compilations
Trash media_response/timeline_compilation (boilerplate body, but preserved times) lists 12:27 PM shot and immediate roof jump, while police-audio projects favor 12:23 PM. That split propagates into witness expectations about what bystanders should have seen.
4. Investigative handling (alleged)
Retired trash and other_topics/witness_reliability Laws blocks — not proven in public docket here — claim:
- FBI Form 302 interview reports may not match public summaries
- Agents allegedly asked witnesses to delete videos
- UVU and traffic camera footage may have been removed or withheld with inconsistent timecodes
These are access and process allegations relevant to testimony reliability, not direct witness quotes.
Why discrepancies matter legally and forensically
- Feasibility analysis: Alternative-shooter theories on Killer use testimony conflicts to argue official timelines are incomplete.
- Chain of custody: Witness video deletion claims, if true, would affect authentication of crowd-sourced evidence.
- Jury presentation: Sealed warrants (see Post-Assassination Investigations) limit what the public can compare to early witness statements.
UVU GRAMA vs witness oral history
Independently documented UVU internal emails on September 9 (Pre-Shooting Warnings) show staff disagreements about threat seriousness — a different category from eyewitness shot geometry, but part of the broader "who knew what when" discrepancy landscape.
Laws (Charlie Kirk)
- FBI Form 302 interview reports for every witness and records of FBI agents asking witnesses to delete videos and removed UVU and traffic camera footage with timecodes are things that the Charlie Kirk Investigation Laws may result in powerful truths coming out that aren't out yet.