Bates 003996-R2: Miranda at 6:25 vs. the Discord Clock
Explainer capture on the Bates-stamped exhibit, with the key passage highlighted. Full write-up →
If the Discord confession has one genuine, document-backed problem, this is it.
The exhibit
"'Bates 003996-R2' is a Bates-stamped discovery exhibit (standard numbering used by the prosecution/Utah County Attorney's Office when producing large volumes of materials to the defense). It refers to a video recording (likely bodycam, stationhouse interview, or surveillance footage) of Tyler Robinson's encounter with law enforcement. The video shows him being read his Miranda rights at approximately 6:25 p.m. MDT on September 11, 2025 (with an internal video timestamp around 03:36:53 or similar, depending on the exact frame)."
"The exhibit has been referenced in recent defense filings and analysis (particularly around late March 2026) to highlight alleged timeline discrepancies: Robinson was already in custody and mirandized (and reportedly invoked his right to counsel) hours before the official 'surrender' narrative and a Discord confession message attributed to him. Podcaster/investigator Baron Coleman has prominently discussed and quoted from it."
The arithmetic
| Time, September 11, 2025 | Event |
|---|---|
| ~6:25 PM MDT | Robinson Mirandized on video, per Bates 003996-R2; reportedly invokes counsel |
| 7:57 PM MDT | Time cited in charging documents and reporting for the Discord confession |
| 8:57 PM | Time shown on the confession screenshot itself |
| 09/12, 04:00 | Arrest date/time stamped on the probable-cause affidavit |
Take the earlier confession figure and the gap is 92 minutes. Take the screenshot's own clock and it is two hours and thirty-two minutes. Either way the message postdates the Miranda warning.
The phone-custody argument
Washington County protocol is described as taking a suspect's phone once they are in custody and Mirandized. If that happened at 6:25 PM, the device would have been held until Utah County Officer Brian Davis arrived to transport Robinson roughly 260 miles north.
Under that reading, the person Mirandized at 6:25 PM did not have the phone at 7:57 PM, and therefore did not post the message. Baron Coleman has framed this as the core of the "made-up Discord messages" claim.
What would resolve it, in one step
The video. Bates 003996-R2 exists, is numbered, and is in the defense's hands. A single frame with its timestamp, released publicly, settles whether Robinson was in custody before the message.
It has not been released. Neither has the bodycam nor the lobby CCTV from the surrender — see Surrender — Sept 11, which ties the missing footage to precisely this question.
The honest counter-argument
Two possibilities keep the official account intact:
- The 6:25 PM figure is wrong — misread frame, timezone offset, or an internal video clock not synced to wall time. The explainer itself hedges: "or similar, depending on the exact frame."
- Someone else had the account. If a friend or family member had access, the message could post while Robinson was in custody. But that undoes the confession as a confession.
Both remain open. What is not open is that the two timestamps, as they currently stand in the record, cannot both describe the same man with the same phone.
Why this page sits at the centre of the Discord section
Every other page here is about authentication — who wrote it, on what platform, sourced from whom. This page is about physical possibility. It is the one argument that does not require anyone to have lied, only for a clock to be right.
The detail inside the video that dates it
The strongest argument that the Bates 003996-R2 encounter happened on Thursday September 11, not Friday the 12th, is not the timestamp at all. It is a sentence Robinson says on the recording. Asked whether he wants to proceed, he answers:
"I'd like to speak with my legal counsel. I'm hoping for a fella named Doug Terry. Told he's pretty good attorney here. Think my folks are trying to get a hold of him. I think his office is closed for the night."
Baron Coleman's reading of that line: a lawyer's office is closed for the night on a Thursday evening. On a Friday evening at 6:25 PM it would be closed for the weekend, and a person waiting on a callback would say so. The same sentence also places a recent conversation with his parents — "my folks are trying to get a hold of him" — which does not fit a man who, on the official account, had by then been in custody for almost twenty-four hours.
This is an argument from the content of the recording rather than from its clock, which is what makes it hard to dismiss as a misread frame. It is one commentator's reading of a quoted transcript, not a court finding.
The booking sheet points the same way
The Utah County Sheriff's Office inmate booking sheet and probable cause statement record:
| Field | Value |
|---|---|
| Arrest date | 09/11/2025, 10:00 PM |
| Arresting officer | Brian Davis — State Bureau of Investigation |
| Date into Utah County | 09/12/2025, roughly four hours later |
Davis would have travelled from Orem, Salt Lake City or Provo — about three and a half hours. To arrest Robinson in Washington County at 10:00 PM he had to have started north of there at roughly 6:30 PM, which is minutes after the Miranda timestamp. The return leg took about four hours, which is consistent. The unanswered question is how Davis knew to begin driving south if, on the official timeline, Robinson was not yet identified or in custody.
What St. George residents reportedly heard before 7:57 PM
Two reported details sit in the same window, and both predate the confession timestamp:
- Residents of St. George — Robinson's own town, 260 miles from UVU — report receiving messages at approximately 7:00 PM saying the person who shot Charlie Kirk lived there and was in custody.
- Media outlets reportedly understood he was in Washington County Sheriff's Office custody, which is given as the reason they were seeking the surveillance video beginning at 6:00 PM.
If either holds up, word of a St. George man in custody would have been moving through his own town before the account zealous_monkey_55095 announced he was surrendering "in a few moments." Both are reported claims from citizen compilations rather than documents, neither has been confirmed by any official source, and both are checkable by anyone who received such a message. We record them as unverified.
A compilation naming officials (unverified claim from public commentary)
One widely circulated compilation lists officials who, in its author's opinion, would have been positioned to know whether Robinson was in custody earlier than the official arrest time. The author's characterisation — that they have not publicly addressed it — is that author's own, and we have not independently verified what any of these officials has or has not said. The list is reproduced because it circulated widely, not because we endorse it:
FBI Director Kash Patel · FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino · FBI SAIC Robert Bohls · Utah Governor Spencer Cox · Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson · Utah County Sheriff Mike Smith · Utah County Officer Brian Davis · Washington County Sheriff Nate Brooksby · retired WCSO detective Scott Messinger · the unidentified Washington County deputies present at the 6:25 PM Miranda reading · Utah Attorney General Derek Brown · Department of Public Safety Commissioner Beau Mason.
We want to be as clear as words allow about what this is. It is one commentator's list and one commentator's inference. It is not an allegation that any person named committed a crime, lied, withheld information, or took part in a cover-up. None of them has been charged with or accused by any authority of anything arising from this timeline. Every one of them is presumed innocent of any wrongdoing, and there are ordinary, entirely lawful reasons an official may not publicly discuss a pending capital prosecution — including that they are prohibited from doing so. Not commenting on a disputed timeline is not evidence of anything. Readers should not contact, harass or draw conclusions about any person named here.
Two further items of public record are sometimes mentioned alongside it. Washington County Sheriff Nate Brooksby held a press conference re-affirming the 33-hour manhunt account, and resigned in March 2026; no reason was announced, and no connection between his resignation and this case has been established or alleged by any official body — officials resign for many reasons and we draw no inference from it. Separately, the Washington County Sheriff's Office has stated that it did not interview or question Robinson. A Miranda warning is not an interview, so that statement and the recording may well both be accurate; we note it as something that has not been publicly reconciled, not as evidence that anyone said anything untrue.
The Location Field Is Typed In. The IP Address Is Not.
On Discord, on Steam, and on every platform in this section, the country shown on a profile is a text box the user filled in. Anyone can type Utah, or Egypt, or nothing at all, and change it again in seconds. Whether it is shown publicly is a setting. It is not evidence of where a person was sitting when they typed a message.
What is not typed in is the IP address. Every session, every login, every message send is written to the platform's own logs with the address it arrived from, alongside device fingerprints and session timing. Discord holds that record for the servers named in the Utah State Bureau of Investigation's warrant — Craftopia, Gamin and The Corruption — and for the account that posted the confession.
That is the question this section keeps returning to: is it known where the people in these servers actually were? The FBI reportedly examined twenty or more people in Robinson's Discord circle and charged none of them, and nothing in the public record states where any of them were. To be explicit, because it matters: being in another country is not wrongdoing, no one in those servers has been accused by any authority of anything, and nothing on this site suggests any of them did anything improper. The point is narrower — that a location nobody has verified should not be treated as if it were verified, in either direction. Self-reported locations circulated widely — see the Egypt claim on a Steam profile — and self-reported locations are worthless.
The answer exists. It is in Discord's subpoena return and in the login-IP history for September 10–12 — records that investigators can obtain through lawful process and the public cannot. What we are asking for is that the record for the account that posted the confession be established through that process and, so far as the law allows, made public. Until it is, every claim of foreign involvement in these chats — and every denial — rests on a field somebody typed.
We are not asking anyone to identify, locate, contact or expose any private individual, and readers should not attempt it. We name no one and we accuse no one. This is a request for a record, not an allegation against a person.
Other Parts of the Discord Messages
Discord Friends, Servers and Handles
Every handle in the source material, reassembled after the warrant redacted the rest. Three servers, two men, six years of archive — and no country anyone can verify.
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Two Different Surrender Messages
The indictment quotes one surrender sentence and the warrant quotes an entirely different one. The warrant's author re-capitalised and truncated the post he was reproducing.
Read this
Warrant Page 5 — The First Text Exchange
The warrant's verbatim first exchange, taken at a 1:00 AM interview on September 12. A rifle in a bush, wrapped in a towel, and somebody still watching it.
Read this
The craftin247 / milk Profile Thread
An eleven-year Steam profile under the names craftin247 and milk, with a Discord handle visible on its comment wall. The accounts predate the shooting by years.
Read thisThe Steam Friend List May Matter More
Discord is where the confession appeared. Steam is where the friendships actually lived. A server can hold hundreds of people who have never spoken to each other; a friend list is chosen one person at a time, and the people on it are the ones you spend hundreds of hours in voice chat with, night after night, for years. If anyone in Robinson's online life knew him well enough to matter, they are likelier to be on that list than on a server roster.
The two circles overlap directly: visitors to the Steam profile posted their Discord handles on its public comment wall. And Steam stores exactly what Discord stores — the IP address each session came from — no matter what country a profile claims.
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