Losee Center (Alleged Sniper Rooftop)
UVU's 158-page After-Action Report never once mentions the house UVU owns on the hill above the construction site, 691 W 925 S, even though the rooftop man's exit path ran right beside it and the rifle was found at the base of that hill. Who was in that house on September 10, and whose vehicles were parked in front, may be the single fastest way to crack open who really carried out Charlie Kirk's assassination. UVU holds the keys, the approvals, and the records, so we all need to ask UVU to release a "UVU House / Charlie Kirk Report".
UVU After-Action Report: The report's timeline puts someone climbing onto the Losee Center roof at 12:17 p.m. and running across it at 12:22 p.m., both seen only in later footage review. Its campus map labels the spot where "the shooter appears to have shot at Kirk."
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The Losee Center sits directly east of the UVU courtyard where Charlie Kirk spoke on September 10, 2025. Charging documents allege the fatal shot came from its rooftop — roughly 150 yards (430 feet) from the tented stage. That single claim makes this building the load-bearing physical anchor for ballistics, UVU surveillance, and every debate about whether Tyler Robinson — the accused shooter, presumed innocent — is the same person visible on the roof. This page tracks the affidavit timeline, contested rooftop video, runner-before-shot reconstruction, and what trial evidence the state is expected to lean on.
Affidavit surveillance timeline (alleged)
Per the probable-cause affidavit and UVU campus surveillance reporting, cameras allegedly tracked an individual — called "Suspect" in the filing — from morning arrival through rooftop escape. Tyler Robinson is the person charged; the sequence below reflects prosecution allegations, not proven facts.
| Time (approx.) | Alleged event |
|---|---|
| 08:29 a.m. | Gray Dodge Challenger arrival on campus; figure in plain maroon T-shirt, light shorts, light shoes, black hat with white logo — no backpack noted |
| ~11:50 a.m. | Crosses grassy area north of Campus Drive near 800 West; described limp gait; black flag shirt in later frames |
| ~12:02 p.m. | Recorded on north side of Losee Center; enters southeast-corner doors |
| ~12:15 p.m. | Stairs to common area; approaches short concrete wall separating interior from rooftop |
| ~12:17 p.m. | Climbs wall; crouches on roof |
| ~12:22 p.m. | Prone shooting position near west edge, facing courtyard |
| ~12:23 p.m. | Charlie Kirk shot |
| ~12:23+ p.m. | Sprint to northeast corner; lowers to grass; flees north across Campus Drive into wooded area where a Mauser Model 98 .30-06 wrapped in a towel was later reported recovered |
Investigators also reported a shoe impression on the northeast rooftop edge, consistent with Converse/Chuck Taylor soles, at the spot where the suspect allegedly climbed down. See Gun & Bullet — wound trajectory for the contested 5–9° downward-angle debate tied to this geometry.
Why the building matters
The Losee rooftop is where the government's narrative places the fatal shot; citizen investigators have largely concluded the fatal injury came instead from an explosive at his microphone (Microphone — The Exploding Mic Theory). Its elevated west edge overlooks an open courtyard with a clear sight line to the tented stage — central to every trajectory and audio-sync test. Independent reviewers ask how an armed figure reached the roof unchallenged, why the position was not secured before ~3,000 attendees filled the courtyard, and how the gait described on approach compares to the sprint described on escape. These are open investigative questions drawn from public filings and commentary, not adjudicated findings.
Distance, angle, and acoustic anchor
Per charging documents and CK_FILE notes, the alleged prone firing position sat about 150 yards from the stage. One ballistics analysis in public commentary argues a shot from that height toward a crouching Kirk would carry only about 5–9 degrees downward and contends such an angle would be expected to enter through the face or jaw rather than produce the observed neck wound — a claim developed further under Proof Not Tyler — trajectory mismatch. A separate reference point is the Canon XA55 broadcast camera roughly 46 meters from the tent, used by independent reviewers to test sound-timing against the rooftop distance (~120 meters for muzzle blast in that acoustic model).
The 25-second sprint to the northeast corner
Public commentary cites surveillance stills timestamped 12:23:29, 12:23:34, 12:23:45, and 12:23:54 on 9/10/2025 mapping movement from the shooting position to the northeast corner in about 25 seconds, with red arrows tracing the path across rooftop frames. This short window is central to timeline debates about whether one person could fire and then reach the escape point as described.
The "runner left before the shot" claim
Some independent reviewers argue the released rooftop video does not fit the official sequence. A widely shared commentary note alleges that Utah County DA Jeffrey Gray and UVU are withholding fuller rooftop-view files, and that the public clip was deliberately trimmed to start at 12:23:34 p.m. — after a figure had already begun running.
By measuring a visible run of about 220 feet in 15 seconds, the note back-calculates that "the runner began all-out run at 12:23:28" while "Charlie was hit at 12:23:30," which the author argues would make the shot "literally impossible" from that runner. That two-second gap is what the reconstruction treats as fatal to the rooftop-shooter theory. This is researcher interpretation, not a court finding.
Rooftop video released after reported custody
Public commentary notes that the figure "dressed in black running on the roof of the Losee Building" appeared in an enhanced stairwell image and rooftop clip released around a 7:58 p.m. press conference on September 10, and questions whether that video would have surfaced had Tyler Robinson not turned himself in — arguing the material was released after he was reportedly already in custody. This framing is commentary about disclosure timing, not an established fact about intent.
Trial evidence the state is expected to emphasize (reported)
Public reporting and the affidavit narrative suggest prosecutors will lean on a chain tying campus cameras to physical recovery:
- UVU surveillance placing a rooftop figure on Losee before and after the shot — see UVU Surveillance and Tyler on cameras
- Rooftop stills and stairwell enhancement shown at the evening press conference
- Shoe impression at the northeast corner consistent with Converse soles
- Rifle recovery in a wooded area north of campus, described as a scoped Mauser .30-06
- Digital and witness evidence summarized in Tyler Robinson — Trial, including reported Discord messages and surrender circumstances
Defense and independent analysts counter with ATF inconclusive ballistics comparisons (per reported March 2026 filings summarized on Tyler Robinson — Trial), no GSR test claims, rifle fingerprint mismatch commentary, outfit and backpack mismatches between morning campus footage and the stairwell figure, and the runner-before-shot timing argument above. Robinson remains charged, not convicted, and presumed innocent pending trial.
Discovery fights and sealed material (reported)
Public reporting on the pending capital case describes prosecutors seeking to present UVU camera exports while the defense argues chain-of-custody gaps and delayed FBI/ATF file turnover — including a reported four-page ATF comparison of an autopsy bullet-jacket fragment to the recovered rifle marked "INCONCLUSIVE." A broad gag order and closed preliminary hearings (per public commentary) limit what observers can verify from outside the courtroom.
X commentary also flags:
- March 2026 defense motion to seal ATF inconclusive comparison — media coalition opposition (@Candice60896290 threads)
- Utah County Attorney Chad Grunander early press framing UVU as crime scene
- Reported June 2026 contempt disputes involving prosecutor Christopher Ballard and TMZ/Fox over sealed exhibits — not adjudicated here
Readers should treat trial-evidence summaries as orientation to reported disputes, not a substitute for docket filings.
Interior access — how the roof was reportedly reached
The affidavit path is map-readable from campus maps: southeast-corner doors → interior stairs → short concrete wall → rooftop. Campus security gaps documentation asks why no patrol interrupted that sequence during a major outdoor rally. Public stills at 12:23:29–12:23:54 are cited to argue the same figure visible prone at the west edge moments later appears sprinting northeast — a continuity claim defense teams may challenge if earlier frames remain withheld.
No public filing reviewed here establishes who held keys, whether roof doors were alarmed, or whether TPUSA or UVU security conducted elevated sweeps before doors opened to ~3,000 attendees. Those operational gaps are separate from — but adjacent to — the question of whether the rooftop shooter matches Tyler Robinson on camera.
Physical recovery chain (as alleged)
Beyond the rooftop sequence, charging documents tie the narrative to ground-level recovery:
- Northeast corner descent — shoe impression consistent with Converse soles where the figure allegedly lowered to grass
- North across Campus Drive — flight path toward wooded cover
- Rifle wrap — Mauser Model 98 .30-06 in a towel, linked to engraved casing and Discord-message theories under Tyler Robinson
Each link is contested: independent posts question planting timelines, while prosecutors treat the package as the terminal anchor of the camera track. None of this has been ruled on at trial as of this writing.
Courtyard witnesses vs. rooftop theory
Several people at the tent report hearing a close, sharp event rather than a distant rifle crack — including TPUSA photographer Andrew Feraci and press shooter Charles McClintock Wilson at the courtyard edge. Investigators read these accounts as support for their conclusion that Charlie Kirk was killed by an exploding mic rather than a rooftop rifle round, alongside the acoustic two-event research. Hunter Kozak, who reportedly asked the final question, anchors the last seconds before the shot in synchronized timelines.
"Stairs Guy" identity gap and eyewitness dissent
Citizen researchers @HolonCitizen and @DiligentDenizen have posted threads arguing clothing and backpack mismatches between Tyler's 08:29 Challenger arrival (maroon tee, light shorts, half-full light-blue pack in later frames) and the black flag shirt / dark jeans / fuller pack figure on the rooftop stairs — developed at length on Tyler Robinson — Stairs Guy and Proof Not Tyler — identity gap.
Separately, commentary attributed to Candace Owens via @RealCandaceO cites an eyewitness who reportedly states Tyler was not the person on the roof, citing outfit and gun mismatches. That claim is unverified hearsay in public posts, not sworn trial testimony; it is included because it is widely circulated in rooftop debates. We do not assert that Tyler Robinson did or did not fire the shot.
Military-Affiliated Student Hub (MASH) inside Losee Center
A public research thread flags that the building alleged to be the sniper perch also houses the university's Military-Affiliated Student Hub (MASH) on Level 3 of the Losee Center. According to the note, the hub is listed on the UVU website (uvu.edu/military-affiliated) but does not appear on the university's public interactive campus map. Commentators treat that listing-without-mapping as a curiosity worth archiving, and stack it beside the campus's broader national-security footprint discussed on CIA UVU Profiles and the Center for National Security Studies context.
This is a reported observation, not evidence that the hub, its staff, or any student had any role in the shooting. A military-affiliated student resource center is an ordinary campus service; its presence in the same building the affidavit describes as the firing position is noted here only because researchers document it as an open question about who occupied and controlled the upper floors of Losee on September 10.
Rooftop access still obtainable weeks later
Weeks after the shooting, Fox News published exclusive photos reportedly showing that access paths to the Losee rooftop remained obtainable, drawing renewed scrutiny to how the elevated position was left unsecured on the day of the event.
Laws (Charlie Kirk)
Withheld rooftop camera masters, stairwell HD exports, and geofence maps for the Losee footprint are among records the Charlie Kirk Investigation Laws may compel — potentially resolving whether the public clip starting at 12:23:34 is a complete account of the roof timeline.
Losee Rooftop Claims on X (2026 Hearing Echoes)
- @Willdbuckley (Jul 6, 2026) relayed witness recounts of a screwdriver and distinct gravel impression on the Losee roof with courtyard line-of-sight (@DailyCaller).
- Hearing commentary stresses Officer Bagley bodycam dying on roof arrival and an unnamed second badge-holder — chain-of-custody flashpoints on X.
- Charging narrative places the shooter on Losee for an extended pre-shot window; skeptics demand full HD campus camera release for that interval.
Related context appears in the Campus Security Gaps and pre-shooting warnings sections.
Commentator coverage: Citizen journalist Ian Carroll has analyzed the released roof footage and argued, according to his posts, that no rifle is visible on the Losee Center roof figure and that the clothing does not match — and says he flew his own drone over the rooftop as part of his review.
Interesting In This Area
- The building also housed a military-affiliated student hub named in campus-profile research.
- The campus map shows the roof's distance from the tent and courtyard.
- Rooftop access is the gap the government's rifle account requires.
- Rooftop video reportedly surfaced only after custody, per the UVU index.
Interesting In Other Areas
- Frame counting puts ten or eleven running steps across the roof.
- The Mauser .30-06 is the government's weapon; its energy is disputed.
- Nobody has publicly matched the stairwell figure to a named person.
- Campus CCTV covering the building has never been released in full.
Images
Other Pages In This Section
Pavers — Dan Merrell's Account
The contractor describes on camera being called on a Sunday to pave the courtyard where Charlie Kirk was killed, and says the coordinators told him the order came from the top. His interview is the origin of the whole paving story.
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Lockdown, false alerts, a vigil and student-shot footage, plus two harder threads: free trauma counselling described as aimed at witnesses, and an instruction to delete video. Grounded in official posts and GRAMA.
Read thisCIA-Linked UVU Profiles (Claims)
UVU National Security Society profiles with reported CIA and CNSSI ties were taken down on September 24, 2025. The page records what was published and what corroboration would actually look like — names appear because they were public, not because anyone is accused.
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Stingray Device at UVU (Claims)
The claim that an IMSI-catcher was operating at the event, and what such a device would and would not capture. It rests on commentary and photographs rather than any records release, and the page marks that gap plainly.
Read thisElsewhere In The Investigation
This website's author is @HolonCitizen on X and YouTube/@HolonCitizen. Follow me there.
Interesting
- The rooftop-to-stage geometry gives a 5-9 degree angle inconsistent with the observed neck wound.
- An earlier Law 4 draft would make blocking an employee from joining a civilian team an offense.
- The original Trusted Investigators Act named just three investigators before growing to seventeen.
Related Areas
- Proof Not Tyler — overview
- Gun & Bullet — Mauser rifle
- Tyler Robinson — Stairs Guy
- UVU campus surveillance cameras
- Possible shooter locations
- Mirandizing — court evidence