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Pre-Shooting Warnings: Two Men Contacted UVU the Night Before

UVU GRAMA records showing redacted communications from 9/9/2025 about two men asking to speak with police about a plan

Redacted UVU GRAMA records from September 9, 2025 showing internal communications about two men who asked to speak with police about "a plan." Source: @danksterintel on X, April 15, 2026.

According to UVU GRAMA records obtained by the Daily Caller News Foundation (50 documents, 112 pages), two separate individuals or groups attempted to flag concerns about the Charlie Kirk event the day before the assassination on September 10, 2025. Both were either dismissed or buried in the record.

Two Unidentified Men at 10:35 PM on September 9​

According to document UVU 25-330:0023, at 10:35 PM on September 9, 2025, a UVU staff member reported that someone from Event Services came to their office stating that two people had showed up at UVU offices asking to talk to police about "a plan." The staff member wrote that the two individuals were reportedly directed to police.

The message was considered serious enough that it was sent to the university cabinet — the university president's office.

Forty-four minutes later, at 11:19 PM, according to the same GRAMA records, someone responded in the communication chain stating that the two gentlemen "are NOT from a senator's office. They are GOP reps who played like they knew more than they did!"

According to @danksterintel, who reportedly reviewed all 112 pages:

  • Nobody in the chat asked what "the plan" was
  • Nobody documented what the two men told police
  • The names of the two men are REDACTED in the released records

14 hours later, Charlie Kirk was shot from a rooftop and killed.

Separate Warning Email at 2:23 PM on September 9​

According to document UVU 25-330:0079/0080, a separate email was sent at 2:23 PM on September 9 through UVU Police Chief Jeff Long's communication chain. The subject line read simply: "FYI."

The email reportedly stated: "He wants us to get a message to Charlie Kirk. His phone number is [REDACTED]."

According to the released records:

  • The name of the person wanting to reach Kirk is REDACTED
  • The phone number is REDACTED
  • Whether the message was ever delivered is not documented anywhere in the 112 pages

Orem Police Department Involvement​

According to the GRAMA records, the Orem Police Department sent UVU the Charlie Kirk ticket link on September 3, with the subject line: "Charlie Kirk Tickets." After the shooting, Orem PD reportedly stated they were "not involved."

According to @danksterintel, UVU pays Orem PD annually for a joint Public Order Unit designed for exactly this type of large public event. It was reportedly never activated for the Charlie Kirk event.

Emergency Alert Failures​

According to the GRAMA records:

  • The first emergency alert, sent 19 minutes after the shooting, reportedly falsely stated "suspect in custody." The suspect was not in custody. An estimated 10,000 students remained on campus believing it was safe.
  • The Run-Hide-Fight alert, sent 88 minutes after the shooting, reportedly still contained placeholder text: "Shooter in [INSERT location]." The location was never filled in.

Security Gaps (As Reported)​

According to @danksterintel's review of the 112 pages:

  • Faculty had reportedly never been trained on active shooter protocols
  • No ambulance was on site
  • No outside law enforcement was coordinated
  • 6 campus police officers for a crowd the chief later called 3,000 people

Ongoing Redactions​

According to @danksterintel, every name in the September 9 communications remains redacted under Utah state law exemptions for "security of public property" and "privacy." The suspect has been in custody for 7 months, the event is over, and there is no ongoing security threat to the campus.

UVU has reportedly acknowledged that additional documents exist and has refused to release them.

Key Unanswered Questions​

  • Who were the two men who came to UVU at 10:35 PM on September 9?
  • What was "the plan" they wanted to discuss with police?
  • Who wanted to get a message to Charlie Kirk at 2:23 PM that same day?
  • Was that message ever delivered to Kirk?
  • Why are names still redacted when the suspect is in custody and the event is over?
  • What additional documents has UVU refused to release?

Document References​

  • UVU 25-330:0023 — 10:35 PM communication about two men and "a plan"
  • UVU 25-330:0024 — Follow-up response at 11:19 PM
  • UVU 25-330:0079, 0080 — 2:23 PM email about getting a message to Charlie Kirk

Source: Daily Caller News Foundation GRAMA records request, reported by @danksterintel.